I am beginning to understand how we can believe and submit at the same time. I've strugged with this for a long time. Some well meaning Christians will tell me that all I need is a little more faith and then I'll get what I ask God for. I don't really buy the whole "name - it and - claim - it" or "health and wealth" sort of phylosophy; I think it reduces our Lord to some sort of magic genie and He's so much bigger than that. I tend to lean more twords the idea that God is soverein and he has everything under controll and I have to submit to whatever His will is in my life. I was talking to a friend of mine last week about this confusing aspect of my faith, trying to figure out which was right. He considers himself a "faith it" guy, and I wondered what his perspective would be, should I just belive that I'll have whatever I ask God for, or just submit to whatever His plan is for my live? He seemed to think we can do both. After talking with him, I remembered something from a Rob Bell lecture I watched in a small group. He was talking about dimensions and was using a dry erase marker as an illustration. In two dimensions, if you look at a dry erase marker from the side, it's a rectangle but if you look at it at it's end, it's a circle. In 3 dimensions, it's both a rectangle and a circle. That's how it is with spiritual things, what looks like either one or the other can be both. I was reading in Daniel about Shadrach, Meshach and Abendnego and when they were treated to be thrown into the furnace they said "If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to save us from it, and he will rescue us from your hand, O King. But even if he does not, we want you to know, O King, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up" (Daniel 3:17&18) I'm so familiar with this story and have read it so many times, but I didn't see the duality of it until recently. From this passage, it seems to me that you can say to God "I know you're able, and I know you're willing, but even if you don't I'll still serve you" and God will honor that. It still seems a little odd to me, it looks kind of double minded; but if it's scriptural, then I can trust it.