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12:04 PM   [17 Jun 2013 | Monday]

The flesh and Spirit

The flesh and Spirit

I am writing this blog on the above subject based on what I read in the Bible and my experience in applying it on my life. But first what do we mean by flesh and Spirit.

The flesh to my understanding is what our physical senses tells what is right and wrong. The Spirit is from the Holy Spirit or God. The Bible says the Holy Spirit is given to those who realize they are sinners, repent of the sins they committed , and accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

As i live my Christian life i noticed that the flesh is tricky. Sometimes it will tell me a thing or something is good when it is not. Like when I found something wrong in others I rejoice but is it right ? I believe it is the flesh telling me to be proud. The flesh tries to glorify self. Meanwhile when others found something wrong in me I sense myself getting upset. The flesh tends to be self righteous. So the Spirit will tell me to respond in love and understanding to those who make mistake and to own up to my mistakes or sins.

Sometimes the flesh will tell us there is nothing wrong with what we believe and it is a waste of time to verify or check what we believe.

The flesh will try or tries to justify what we are doing wrong.

On other times the flesh will condemn ourselves,like when we are unable to overcome weaknesses in our life. But the Spirit role is to pick us up and give us a fresh start.

If you are trying to please God and still find yourself miserable, the answer could be we fail to distinguish the difference between flesh and Spirit. While if you found yourself enjoying sin then flesh is still controls you. We need to disarm the flesh.

We need to remember that our flesh pulls us away from truth.

I will end here for now and meditate some more on this battle between flesh and Spirit.

God bless.

ped

 

 

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revhydrogen | Tue Jun 18, 2013, 21:06

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Ped, we are new friends , but friends can say things to other friends out of concern for the other, as you know.

You are 60, having spent a life in Christ and this is all you know about flesh and spirit? This is your personal basis for arriving at the Bibles version of Cosmology? And you are recruiting young people people at camps into That is the blind leading the blindyour world of knowledge based on these skimpy assumptions? That is the blind leading the blind.

At least when a vampire recruits, he.she  is passing on something that is real, or are vampires just fairy tales?  Virtual/ REAL it really makes no difference. A computer program is not a real thing so much as virtual.

And in this way the virual can infect a human because we are susceptible to a thing called programming becausethe  'we' (our false mind) is a machine or robot. That is how it creates our reflective awareness.

A very ordinary robot robot, connected to a very unordinary grid.

The robot (ego) is an intelligent machine creating/being/hosting some functions.,

with capacity for modification through self input.

The Grid is a Quantum computer hosting a variety of functions.

The grid allows upload and download under the following conditions:

 1A  Automatic videographic upload to cloud memory of all focussed experience (on demand) From the twisted pair of conscious awareness. EG reflective (EGO)= What you thought, And Animal strnd= What you saw. This memory is upgraded continuosly. Note 1A is causal of conscious and animal mind , but cannot communicate directly to the cloud without the personal spirit channelling this enegy so.

 1B On demand download to the EGO from cloud even during sleep.  As in the note just above the download from the cloud is facilitated via         the unconscious mind with the passing through of data which will    enable the conscious mind to regenerate a memory. 

  2A. Upload of Love etc. to cloud by unconsciousmind (transpersonal agent) 

  2B  Download of love etc  from cloud by unconsciousmind (transpersonal agent) 

 3. None Others to my knowledge or the neccessity of my cosmology.

 All matter and semi matter and energy including all organisms are connected to the quantum cloud which provides the universal consciousness. In this way there is only one view of which you get a slice dependent upon where you lie on the tree of life. (descent),

Our false mind has no access to the spiritual realm, so in order to remain in control as self, it begins to invent things to make it so. Lucky I have the perfect criminal mind to root this old stump out, or you would be snatching my flesh in one of your camps?

Do you like Si Fi movies or horror by chance... Return of the body snatchers your fav eh?

Well that movie was tame compared to the "Crime of the Three Millenia,

showing now at a Tabernacle or Mosque near you.

Whats that you say?   Oh  you are in the movie, a starring lead role...

but you did not know they were filming. 

So they were filming you acting (being false) in real life, A reality show. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for letting me bounce these ideas on you, best Rev

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


revhydrogen | Tue Jun 18, 2013, 21:06

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Ped, we are new friends , but friends can say things to other friends out of concern for the other, as you know.

You are 60, having spent a life in Christ and this is all you know about flesh and spirit? This is your personal basis for arriving at the Bibles version of Cosmology? And you are recruiting young people people at camps into That is the blind leading the blindyour world of knowledge based on these skimpy assumptions? That is the blind leading the blind.

At least when a vampire recruits, he.she  is passing on something that is real, or are vampires just fairy tales?  Virtual/ REAL it really makes no difference. A computer program is not a real thing so much as virtual.

And in this way the virual can infect a human because we are susceptible to a thing called programming becausethe  'we' (our false mind) is a machine or robot. That is how it creates our reflective awareness.

A very ordinary robot robot, connected to a very unordinary grid.

The robot (ego) is an intelligent machine creating/being/hosting some functions.,

with capacity for modification through self input.

The Grid is a Quantum computer hosting a variety of functions.

The grid allows upload and download under the following conditions:

 1A  Automatic videographic upload to cloud memory of all focussed experience (on demand) From the twisted pair of conscious awareness. EG reflective (EGO)= What you thought, And Animal strnd= What you saw. This memory is upgraded continuosly. Note 1A is causal of conscious and animal mind , but cannot communicate directly to the cloud without the personal spirit channelling this enegy so.

 1B On demand download to the EGO from cloud even during sleep.  As in the note just above the download from the cloud is facilitated via         the unconscious mind with the passing through of data which will    enable the conscious mind to regenerate a memory. 

  2A. Upload of Love etc. to cloud by unconsciousmind (transpersonal agent) 

  2B  Download of love etc  from cloud by unconsciousmind (transpersonal agent) 

 3. None Others to my knowledge or the neccessity of my cosmology.

 All matter and semi matter and energy including all organisms are connected to the quantum cloud which provides the universal consciousness. In this way there is only one view of which you get a slice dependent upon where you lie on the tree of life. (descent),

Our false mind has no access to the spiritual realm, so in order to remain in control as self, it begins to invent things to make it so. Lucky I have the perfect criminal mind to root this old stump out, or you would be snatching my flesh in one of your camps?

Do you like Si Fi movies or horror by chance... Return of the body snatchers your fav eh?

Well that movie was tame compared to the "Crime of the Three Millenia,

showing now at a Tabernacle or Mosque near you.

Whats that you say?   Oh  you are in the movie, a starring lead role...

but you did not know they were filming. 

So they were filming you acting (being false) in real life, A reality show. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for letting me bounce these ideas on you, best Rev

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


pryz | Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:06

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Priceless Ped, hope to hear more!

Interesting that you bring in the “physical senses tells us what is right and wrong.”

When you also mention the “flesh tries to justify”, we know will not be formulated in the light of exposure, not unless it has had course to run rampant and run up a constituency of membership. But lets deal with what we know it will all come down to, the individual.

The flesh runs away for dear life counseling along the way. Yes, it shows us what methods to benefit us by to serve us that final reward of pleasure, the chief trickster. Now it gets interesting. For even the flesh knows at some point its over when we decide also with those “physical senses” to cleave unto the safe harbor of the Spirit.

Take for instance, in order Paul’s two opposites:

“For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.” (Romans 7:15)

And then that which he learned to apply:

“I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.” (1 Corinthians 9:27)

I ask at what point are we willing to walk through that gate? Its not lavished with reward but discomfort for the flesh and a handsome reward in the Spirit, which does give life and contentment.

Let the flesh cry bloody murder and “here is your reward, don’t go there”, while the Spirit remains in peace for us to respond. When Paul said he “died” after sinning, then it is so, now the “night is far spent”, it is time!


Sonshine | Fri Jun 21, 2013, 21:06

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Hello All,

I feel If a person will truly understand the finished work of the cross, they would stop beating themselves up on "what is right and what is wrong." or what we need to DO to overcome the flesh....Does this not still stem from the fruit of The Knowledge of Good and Evil.  the whole reason God wanted Adam and Eve sent from the Garden is so they would not also eat of the Tree of Life and stay in this continual state of mind.....We now have the mind of Christ!!

Do we understand what Christ has done?. For what we couldnt do.."HE done". FINISHED...we couldnt fight the flesh, so HE did...He came in the flesh and destroyed death, hell and the grave..to make a way for us... Our gaze is to be set on Him..not on our bad fleshy ways, (which makes us look at sin)  He took our sin, ALL sin..past present,future...and He remembers our sins no more!! Yay!!... He disarmed the enemy..so knowing who we are IN Him, sends the enemy packing...

Yes, Paul says:

“For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.” (Romans 7:15) and we sometimes will!)(my emp)

But let us go on into that chapter, verse 24: Wretched man that I am, who will set me free from the body of this death? 25: Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord.... Woo Hoo!!  He did it!! (my emp.)

And on into Romans 8:1 Therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus 2: For the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death...(Again, Praise God for this!!)

Romans 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is is life and peace. verse 9: However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.

Did we or did we not accept Christ and the Holy Spirit believer? If so, then INDEED the Spirit of God dwells! Do we believe He will direct our path? Proverbs 3:5/6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowlege Him  and He will direct your path. I acknowledge Him...and I believe HE will see me through..

Galatians 3:3 Are you so foolish? having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

I believe right believing, produces right living...for our desires become His desires..

Psalms 37:4 says "He will give us the desire of our heart", you know why? because our desires have now become His desires..

We are His children, the Kingdom of God on this earth. Are we really walking in the power and authority He provided?  I am not exempt here...I am still trying to grasp it all.... But I am resting in His promise that He will perfect and complete what He has begun. Phil. 1:6

Hebrews 4:10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

Lets rest in the work He finished,.

Fix our eyes on Him,for He is the Author and Finisher of our faith.

Blessings

Sonshine


pryz | Sat Jun 22, 2013, 16:06

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Good points Sonshine!

Bless you!


Sonshine | Sun Jun 23, 2013, 00:06

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Thank you Pryz, and God Bless you as well!


 
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