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12:56 PM   [10 Jun 2013 | Monday]

RELIGION VERSUS THE KINGDOM

Religion occupies man until he finds the Kingdom.
Religion is what man does until he finds the Kingdom.
Religion prepares man to leave earth; the Kingdom empowers man to dominate earth.
Religion focuses on Heaven; the Kingdom focuses on earth.
Religion is reaching up to God; the Kingdom is God coming down to man.
Religion wants to escape earth; the Kingdom impacts, influences and changes earth.
Religion seeks to take earth to Heaven; the Kingdom seeks to bring Heaven to earth.

Jesus had only one message, one mandate, and one mission. The return of the Kingdom of Heaven to Earth.

Jesus' first announcement was the arrival of the Kingdom of Heaven. His solution to the malnourished and bankrupt human spirit was NOT a religion, but the Kingdom of Heaven.

The Kingdom is God's priority and MUST become our priority if we are to overcome the confusion of religions and the threat of self-destruction.>Myles Munroe

"But seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and his righteousness and all these things shall be added to you. >Matt. 6:33

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they shall be filled. >Matt 5:6

SEEK THE KINGDOM> NOT A RELIGION.....

Mood: determined
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Saul | Mon Jun 10, 2013, 18:06

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 Awesome and so true!


pryz | Tue Jun 11, 2013, 22:06

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Hello,

With all the indications of all the comments against, yet at times coupled with God, I would imagine your genre of worship is rather freestyle or something of the sort? An enjoyable service I miss seeing if so.

While I have revised my own feelings on this subject, happily I might add, I no longer am compelled to defend anything related to religiosities, with exception of what I might choose to exhibit in commonly known expressions. But I also might be compelled to defend one’s Christian liberty to incorporate that into their lives as well, if that is what they chose to do. I suppose there could be instances of doing the same for those who

Believe me, my fellowship with those who hold to this day the mantra: “Christianity is a relationship, not a religion” lasted for a good many years, but as I said, I would not bolster out and attempt to compel otherwise unless they use this in that constraining sense. And honestly, with a statement like that leaves little room for religion.

Is this really correct to exhibit Christ this way, or is it indeed wholly man’s devise and foreign to God’s will? That would lead us to answer then whether or not religion, that is religion in the Christian framework has any scriptural support for or against it.

What is the order of citations then? You may be fairly well versed to debunk one by one, ,or not. But I’ll spare the bulk and cut to the chase a bit.

With such references as:

“be all the more diligent” (II Pet 1:10),

“what zeal” (II Cor 7:11)

“Walk as children of light” (Eph 5:8)

Could all still be applied to develop solely the inner man:

“seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and his righteousness” (Matt 6:3)

But when we post views on things like religion, that can be a relative subject. But that last verse that you also used, among others, begins to call upon areas of life signaling change not only for the inner man, but also physical. Surely, you agree to this point. If you do, then one more that trumps the “relationship” only stance into clearly the physical/religious mode proved to be the case here for me:

“make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be put out of joint but rather be healed.’ (Heb 12:13)

God bless.

 

 


Sonshine | Fri Jun 14, 2013, 18:06

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Pryz,

These statements were spoken in a book I am reading by Myles Munroe, called "Kingdom Principles" Myles is a very well known and gifted author. they were not my musings...but I could sure relate to what he was saying. so I posted. There are many today that hide behind the mask of religion, never to enter into an intimate relationship with our Lord and King...yes, religion played a part in getting me where I am today, in relationship...the point is...don't stay there...seek the King, His Kingdom, His principles..Phil. 1:6 says HE will complete us...not  a set of rituals in an organazation that keeps you enslaved to bondage. I believe the Kingdom is much different then much of what is being taught in the religious settings of the day...

Not quite sure I know what you are tryin to say... try to simplify your wording a bit. Many of your blogs are confusing to me...Can't grasp what your trying to get across.

Peace

 


Saul | Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:06

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 Hello pryz, I struggle to understand your overall point of view. So my comments are just directed at two of your statements. With all the indications of all the comments against, yet at times coupled with God, I would imagine your genre of worship is rather freestyle or something of the sort? An enjoyable service I miss seeing if so.

All indication would be that my genre of worship is a whole lot of freestyle. I throw my hands up in the air, jump up and down, sing way off-key, yes I'm sure I'm quite a sight to see! I do this both in Worship service and at home in my room I have for prayer. I lift my arms up to praise in joy, because I have much to be joyful about. I jump up and down because I have a lot to jump up and down about! I can't think of a better way to worship God then to move the parts of my body that I couldn't move, before Jesus intervened and healed this former quadrapylegic! WOW, I just can't imagine not moving in honoring what Jesus did for me!!  Every time I move a finger, walk, lift a arm, speak; I am magnifying God's awesome power! Now my physical reasons for the "freestyle" worship aside. The Father freed me through Jesus from the Law of Sin and Death, also gave me eternal life..........WOW!! So much to be grateful for. People at a football game jump up and down when their team scores a point or wins a game...... How much more should I be thankful and show it......when Jesus won eternal life for me?!! Awesome!!

 

But when we post views on things like religion, that can be a relative subject. But that last verse that you also used, among others, begins to call upon areas of life signaling change not only for the inner man, but also physical. Surely, you agree to this point. If you do, then one more that trumps the “relationship” only stance into clearly the physical/religious mode proved to be the case here for me:

The inner man gets changed first, then the exterior follows. When I truly felt the Fathers' Love for me and what Jesus did for me, my spirit changed, then what is on the inside bursts outwardly. Relationship only stance, that's all I need! The Father knew that I could never, ever reach His standards so He sent His Son to do it for me. Jesus fulfilled the Law so I no longer have to. Jesus will never leave or forsake me.......my salvation is no longer based on my actions, it's based on His actions over two thousand years ago. In a true revelation of this, I live a more righteous life by accident than I ever did, before, on purpose. Jesus (died) for me..........Jesus in me..........Jesus (works) through me. Guess what the theme is............yup my Lord and Savior Jesus!! So absolutely I only want and need a true relationship with the Father and Son, then my life reflects this. 


Sonshine | Sat Jun 15, 2013, 13:06

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Well said Brother Saul!! My sentiments exactly!!

Blessings!


Sonshine | Sat Jun 15, 2013, 13:06

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Well said Brother Saul!! My sentiments exactly!!

Blessings!


pryz | Mon Jun 17, 2013, 04:06

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Okay then, but not all. You see, while I would like nothing better than to comment, I have the feeling if I generated much more comment, things might actually worsen for me with you. That isn’t my choosing.

This is because the tone fails to rise above and recognize the fact of my identifying with your position. This is also because your setting me up to defend a liberty in Christ for the individual while at the same time not providing adequate source to prove God isn’t capable of having a relationship within common traditions, so long as they are not counter to scripture, another area of word embattlement the discussion provides plenty of room for roots of bitterness to grow.

How do I know when someone recognizes my ability of identifying with their position? When even for a short space, they at least run a little while tandem w/me under a spirit of plus-or-minus ‘oh, okay brother’ entrustment.

I won’t go on, entreat is too pressed.

God bless.

Mike.


Saul | Mon Jun 17, 2013, 18:06

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 Hello pryz, I want to make it clear that I do not feel any bitterness towards you nor do I wish to contribute to bringing out any bitterness in you. I responded only to what I felt I had an understanding of what you were saying. I was also using my own experience and why I do and think the way I do. Quite honestly, I couldn't understand enough of your points to determine whether you relate or not. As such not all of my comments were specifically to you. I would be happy to read what you would say, although I would ask that you be more to the point (a bit plainer). As I do not have the intellect that you possess.

You are Blessed, with all sincerity

Saul 


pryz | Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:06

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Saul, Thank you brother. The ‘bitterness’ used was a bit rash and easily thought to being applied to you both, I suppose that was a way of magnifying any discussion of disagreement which is pretty much baseless, my apologies.

God Bless and hope to see you both again!


 
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