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12:54 PM   [31 May 2013 | Friday]

Trinity - Years prior, a foundling of identity to me

Have You Considered The Trinity?


The Trinity: The short answer of who, what, where and why?


In another place, a poster asks:


“Who is the greatest in the Trinity, Jesus or the Father?” Silly, yet while the object of verbal abuse in Oneness-sect circles for example:


    "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all, , (John 10:29) NAS

 

"If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. (John 14:28)

 

Sounds like a call to rejoice over His leaving to join His Father’s heavenly stature.

 

"For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will marvel.  (John 5:20)

 

    Yet:

 

    "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)

 

To consider these positions within the Godhead appears limited. Within that consideration is also that ability to form a consensus that tilts out and away from a text in the word here or there, increasing the likelihood of abuse and error.

 

Let me bounce one more off the reader. Since the Lord has formally placed himself below the Father, yet One with Him, it isn’t a principle we are accustom to and therefore hard to fathom, or is it?

 

“The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.  (Luke 6:40) KJV

 

In an effort to encapsulate all of the above, including those I have not included, is an inseparable statement of unity. Surely, you won’t be thinking it is somehow a grave stretch that out of the 80 or so references describing this statement of union we call the Trinity, proceeds the above declaration of the worthy finality of an almighty greatness in the Father? Surely not, forgive my asking. But reconsider the union described in the above 20th verse of John ch.5 and Luke 6:40.

 

"For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing, ,” (John 5:20) NAS

 

Herein is my proposal, and possibly a very old one I am not aware of at that. As seen in the above principle of v40, the other two; the Son and the Holy Spirit being “perfect”, remains “as” the Father, for at what point up the chain does the principle end seeing that He did say “every one”? (Luke 6:40)

 

If you find you agree with me, then L6:40 actually rests on J5:20. Well, still non-applicable? Then go back and highlight or print them down on paper one by one for each verse as I have here showing quite plainly; Who “shows” Who “all things” Who “always” (John 8:29) pleased His Father (“perfect”):

 

 

            Strongs:

 

 

            Luke 6:40

 

 

“disciple”

 

 

mathétés: a disciple

Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine

Short Definition: a learner, disciple, pupil

Definition: a learner, disciple, pupil.

 

“Master”

 

didaskalos: an instructor

Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine

Short Definition: a teacher

Definition: a teacher, master.

 

 

“that is perfect”

 

 

katartizó: to complete, prepare

Part of Speech: Verb

Short Definition: I fit together, prepare

Definition: (a) I fit (join) together; met: I compact together, (b) act. and mid: I prepare, perfect, for his (its) full destination or use, bring into its proper condition (whether for the first time, or after a lapse).

 

            John 5:20

             

 

 

            “and shows”

 

 

            deiknumi: to show

Part of Speech: Verb

Short Definition: I point out, show

Definition: I point out, show, exhibit; met: I teach, demonstrate, make known.

 

 

“is doing”

 

 

poieó: to make, do

Part of Speech: Verb

Short Definition: I do, make

Definition: (a) I make, manufacture, construct, (b) I do, act, cause.

 

 

Mood: cheerful
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