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"Lust of the Eyes, and the Pride of Life"

1 John 2:16; For all that is in the world, the lusts of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

The Lord has placed a message upon my heart that speaks to those of us who are followers of the Lord Jesus. All too often, we fill our minds with the things of this world that cause us to fall into sin. My brethren, the enemy of our souls is very cunning, and he will use all manner of evil to cause us to fall into temptation and sin. Pray, and search the holy scriptures as often as you possibly can, for the time is coming when the Lord will call each of us to give an account of our life, and how we have lived it. Did we live our life according to God's holy word, or did we live it steeped in all manner of sin?

Matthew 5:28 states; But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Are you looking after women to lust after them, thinking that as long as you do not commit the physical act of adultery the Lord will excuse you? The Lord is calling us to think upon all good things, and take every thought captive unto the obedience of Christ. Our minds become defiled when we think on such evil things. Do not be deceived, the Lord will not hold them blameless who commit such sins. For adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, except they repent. 1 Corinthians 6:9 states; Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

2 Corinthians 10:5 states; and all pride that is raised up against the knowledge of God, and taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Brethren, the mind of man is the battlefield in which we war spiritually. The enemy will attack our minds with every evil thought using our flesh as a weapon against us as well. For the flesh and the spirit are in constant warfare against one another. Thus, we must crucify the flesh daily through prayer and the study of God's holy word. Galatians 5:24 states; And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. We are to be crucified with Christ, and the affections and the lusts of the flesh are to be taken into captivity by the renewing of the mind through prayer and the study of the holy scriptures. Ephesians 4:23 states; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind.

Be encouraged my brethren, for the Lord Jesus is faithful and just to forgive you of your sins, if you would but ask for forgiveness and confess your sins as well. He is waiting with open arms for you to repent and come unto Him all ye that labour and are heavy laden, for the Lord will give you rest. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and it is time that we fall on our faces before the Lord and ask forgiveness for our sin. 1 John 1:9 states; If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Amen.

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Sonshine | Mon Mar 04, 2013, 14:03

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CrowBear, This is a good message... I would not say it is for His followers tho, but those who know Him not.

1st John 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Does this mean we won't ever screw up, have a wrong thought, make a wrong choice?  no.. it means we don't want to(why would we?.....we now have a new nature....but if we do, we have an advocate...and we quickly look to Him as our help in time of need... before Christ we didnt even care if we screwed up.... now..our minds are pricked the moment we do... because all things have been made new!!! Praise God!!

You are right, the battle is right between our ears, the mind!...

In Romans 7 and 8 - First of all, we were made to die to the law through the body of Christ, to be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we would bear fruit for God v. 5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the law, were at work with the members of our body to bear fruit for death v.6  BUT NOW we have been released from the law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in the newness of the Spirit, and not in oldness of the letter.  Now, v. 8 goes on to say..Is the law sin?  of course not... We would not have come to know sin if not for the law..  Without the law, we would never know how bad we were..or our need of a Saviour.  So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good.  

Paul talks to us about the conflict of two natures. We were sold into bondage to sin.  Nothing good dwells in our flesh. for the willing is present, but the doing of good is not. (this is why Christ came) For he cries out in v.22 I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, v.23 but i see a different law in the members of my body,waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members, v.24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death? v.25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then, I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh, the law of sin.  Chapter 8 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus, v.2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. v.3 For what the law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh as an offering of sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, v.4 so the requirement of the law  might be fullfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit....NOW to me..this is not a condition, saying IF we walk in the Spirit and not the flesh thingy.  "If" is not in that verse....(man has made that so).....I believe Paul is speaking to those who are now "IN" CHRIST.  For v:9 says.. However, you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ (unbeliever)...he does not belong to Him v.10 If Christ is IN you, tho the body is dead, because of sin, yet the Spirit is alive because of righteousness.

We have been raised to sit with Him in heavenly places!  Have we really been born again?..created in His image or not? Are we still trying to perfect that which he has done for us, by our stinkin fleshly works(filthy rags)? Are we to walk in fear of judgment? When 1st John 4:17 tells us.. love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgement, because As He is, so are we in this world. In fact..backing up a little bit in v.15 we are told that whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. v.16 We have come to know,and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

We are to know and walk in this Identity,  as the Righteousness of God by faith IN Christ Jesus... I have been crucified with Christ, therefore I no longer live, but Christ IN me...my hope of glory...our sins, past present and future are under the blood (one offering, once and for all time, Heb10:9)....So again.....1st John 3:9

Thinking on our fleshly nature is an insult to what Christ has done for us as his sons and daughters. It puts us back under condemnation(under law) and not the finished work of Christ.  It puts our mind on self/failure/defeat...We have the victory.. because He has won...and He abides in us... Its not what we do..but what He has done..We will only able to enter heaven, because His seed abides in us. All our "Good Works"..mean nothing..The scripture, Faith without works is dead...im sure is coming to mind right now....so, to me, The finished work of Christ, in us..by faith.. is what this is all about.  As many try to have faith without the finished work concept...and they keep falling back into an Old Covenant mindset...of what we have to "DO" to be saved from the fear of judgement...which will always keep us from overcoming in this life.

Are we so foolish, having begun by the Spirit, are we now being perfected by the flesh? Does he who provides us with His Spirit, do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?. Galatians 3

it is only by grace, thru faith, we are saved...not of ourselves so that no one can boast...Eph 2:8,9

Not trying to stir up dissention brother.. just puttin my two cents in..

Blessings..


CrowBear33 | Mon Mar 04, 2013, 18:03

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Sonshine, thanks for your comment. It seems as though you have misunderstood what it is that I have written. I totally understand the concept of Jesus being the fulfillment of the law, and the concept of the law vs. grace. However, it seems that many who call themselves followers of Jesus use grace as a license to sin. Those self-proclamed Christians follow the teachings of the prosperity preachers who make Jesus a servant to man, and teach a gospel of convenience as well. It is my hope that you will re-read what it is that I have written, and study the scriptures that I have used in this post, and allow the Holy Spirit to guide you in all truth.

Paul the Apostle stated in 1 Corinthians 5:1; it is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. Paul was talking to the body of believers in the church at Corinth. The one who was committing this sin was claiming to be a "Christian" yet he was committing a grievous sin. Paul went on to say that he turned this man over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh so that his soul might be saved on the day of the Lord...Paul goes on to say that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump, thereby saying that when there is sin in the camp, it spreads like a cancer and will bring about spiritual death to the one who lives a lifestyle of sin no matter if they claim to be a Christian or not. The Lord himself said that many will come to Him on that day saying Lord, Lord, did we not do these many works in thy name? He will then say to them depart from me ye workers of iniquity (sin) for I never knew you. I think that if you would read the holy scriptures in their proper context, you would find that sin is sin no matter who is committing it. And, whether or not we "screw up" as you call it, our sin is what caused our Lord to be crucified on the cross of Calvary. Sin is not just a minor "screw up". Sin is the cause of the downfall of the human race, and the Lord takes it very seriously. So seriously that He died a brutal death so that He would be the spotless lamb that mankind needed for the remissiion of sins.

It pains me that most self-proclaimed Chrsitians today like to have their cake and eat it too. They preach the grace and mercy of the Lord and His forgiveness of our sins, but they neglect to acknowledge that we are called to be holy as He is holy, and that those who are lukewarm will be spewed out of the mouth of God if they do not repent of their lukewarmness. The Lord tells us to choose this day whom we will serve. Will we serve sin unto death, or the Lord Jesus unto life eternal. For whoever sins becomes a slave to it, and he will die spritually as a result. We all make this choice, and just because an individual claims to be a "Christian" does not necessarily mean that they are. We must test the spirits, for judgement begins at the house of the Lord. So, again I encourage you to search the scriptures for the truth. The Lord Jesus did indeed forgive us our sins. However, we must repent (turn away) from them and ask forgiveness for them. We must live a life that glorifies the Lord, and not one that brings a reproach upon Him. For the gate leading to heaven is a narrow one, and few there be that will find it. Do not be deceived Sonshine, for the Lord will not be mocked nor will He strive with man. The scriptures are very clear when it comes to the Lord warning us of the wages of sin. For the wages of sin are death, and if we continue in a lifestyle of sin, we will indeed receive of those wages.

 

 


CrowBear33 | Mon Mar 04, 2013, 18:03

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Sonshine, thanks for your comment. It seems as though you have misunderstood what it is that I have written. I totally understand the concept of Jesus being the fulfillment of the law, and the concept of the law vs. grace. However, it seems that many who call themselves followers of Jesus use grace as a license to sin. Those self-proclamed Christians follow the teachings of the prosperity preachers who make Jesus a servant to man, and teach a gospel of convenience as well. It is my hope that you will re-read what it is that I have written, and study the scriptures that I have used in this post, and allow the Holy Spirit to guide you in all truth.

Paul the Apostle stated in 1 Corinthians 5:1; it is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. Paul was talking to the body of believers in the church at Corinth. The one who was committing this sin was claiming to be a "Christian" yet he was committing a grievous sin. Paul went on to say that he turned this man over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh so that his soul might be saved on the day of the Lord...Paul goes on to say that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump, thereby saying that when there is sin in the camp, it spreads like a cancer and will bring about spiritual death to the one who lives a lifestyle of sin no matter if they claim to be a Christian or not. The Lord himself said that many will come to Him on that day saying Lord, Lord, did we not do these many works in thy name? He will then say to them depart from me ye workers of iniquity (sin) for I never knew you. I think that if you would read the holy scriptures in their proper context, you would find that sin is sin no matter who is committing it. And, whether or not we "screw up" as you call it, our sin is what caused our Lord to be crucified on the cross of Calvary. Sin is not just a minor "screw up". Sin is the cause of the downfall of the human race, and the Lord takes it very seriously. So seriously that He died a brutal death so that He would be the spotless lamb that mankind needed for the remissiion of sins.

It pains me that most self-proclaimed Chrsitians today like to have their cake and eat it too. They preach the grace and mercy of the Lord and His forgiveness of our sins, but they neglect to acknowledge that we are called to be holy as He is holy, and that those who are lukewarm will be spewed out of the mouth of God if they do not repent of their lukewarmness. The Lord tells us to choose this day whom we will serve. Will we serve sin unto death, or the Lord Jesus unto life eternal. For whoever sins becomes a slave to it, and he will die spritually as a result. We all make this choice, and just because an individual claims to be a "Christian" does not necessarily mean that they are. We must test the spirits, for judgement begins at the house of the Lord. So, again I encourage you to search the scriptures for the truth. The Lord Jesus did indeed forgive us our sins. However, we must repent (turn away) from them and ask forgiveness for them. We must live a life that glorifies the Lord, and not one that brings a reproach upon Him. For the gate leading to heaven is a narrow one, and few there be that will find it. Do not be deceived Sonshine, for the Lord will not be mocked nor will He strive with man. The scriptures are very clear when it comes to the Lord warning us of the wages of sin. For the wages of sin are death, and if we continue in a lifestyle of sin, we will indeed receive of those wages.

 

 


chaplainjer | Tue Mar 05, 2013, 13:03

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I agree with you.  What we often fail to see is that when we begin to fill our minds with the things of the world (even in small ways) we open the door for the enemy to desensitize us further to the greater wickedness of the world and then it is downhill unless we confess and turn away from it.   Grace is fantastic, but He has called us not just to be people who live in immense amounts of grace because of our  wickedness of our sin, but also to live righteously and holy lives before him.  If we really do appreciate and treasure the salvation he has given us why is it that we continually stomp on grace and saving love?  Again well said Crowbear 


Sonshine | Tue Mar 05, 2013, 22:03

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You do have many good things to say Crowbear...and I do understand there are people who call themselves christians and still do anything they want...as well as those who abuse the grace message...There are also those who havent grasped the grace message... and feel anyone living by  it..is just wanting a license to sin.....which belittles the grace Gospel that Paul preached.

I just think our approach to ministering is different...I know all you are saying is Bible, its true......

Exhortation is one of my giftings.. so I encourage... I kinda see you as a Prophet.. saying REPENT...for the Kingdom of God is near!! lol..They are both needed... and our Lord will use us both for His purpose and plan

I would never want to do or say anything that hurts Him...so yes, we are to be holy as He is holy... But I see this a little different I guess...HE is our Holiness (not what "we" do ).. and because I am in relationship.. my actions follow suit.  Its never me performing it..but Him IN me...wooing me, per say  to holiness..  its all about HIS goodness IN me...Paul says the flesh never wants to line up.. but His Holy Spirit IN us does...and will...when in relationship...

There are many brothers and sisters I know out there struggling with condemnation, guilt, & shame....cause they keep falling down..but WANT to be better!!//They want to FIND that relationship... they havent grasped it yet...We are to encourage them to keep pressing on...Love covers a multitude of sin..Grace pardons...as Jesus did when He wrote in the sand...then said.."Where are your accusers?"..yes.. and then he said  "Go and sin no more"..But He let her know NONE was without sin...not one! ....so pick yourself back up.. and keep keeping on...

To me, preaching the sin problem makes them go farther down in to that pit of despair/hopelessness..makes them focus on their sin...instead of the one who takes that sin...  Telling someone who is trying to come out of pornograpy..or an alcohol problem..etc..that they better get it right or else!... brings fear..and torment... Showing them the Fathers Love ..makes them wanna try harder...Does this mean we tell them they can do whatever and its ok...no... But we give them an ear,  a shoulder...a word in due season... and let our Lord cleanse them from all unrighteousness... 

This is who I am... so I think we clash a little bit..thats all..

 


 


Saul | Wed Mar 06, 2013, 08:03

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 I agree with sonshine. Teaching condemnation only draws people for a short time period, as long as that person fears judgement. Teaching grace through faith and God's Perfect Love, manifests and creates a person established in a concrete solid foundation, who will serve the Lord forever. 

The condemnation (sin focused) message, kept me away and set me against God for 42 years. Once shown God's Love, I was drawn to Him. There are so many "backsliders" because of the way we teach the word. Look up the 2 commandments that Jesus gave us, it isn't sin based. It's Love based. 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.Matthew 23:37-40 

 

When we supernaturally Love we do not sin. We can only do this when we are IN CHRIST. Jesus never spoke to a sinner and said you're going to hell. Instead He said that He came not to condemn but to save! Jesus changes us from the inside out, not from first trying not to sin. Jesus felt supernatural compassion, then healed, then the sinner felt Jesus' Love for them, once they felt that true Love, then He would often say Sin No More. It was His Love for them that changed them. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. HE changes us, we do not and cannot change ourselves. 

Yes, there is a Grace message that goes overboard, and that message is wrong. But the sin message is equally as wrong. Both are based on the physical world, on the way that mankind, believes the message should be spread, not on God's way. 


CrowBear33 | Thu Mar 07, 2013, 00:03

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Greetings Saul and Sonshine...Thanks for your comments. I understand what you are both saying, and to some degree I agree with what you are both saying. However, I must say that I do believe that you are both misinterpreting what it is that I have written. The Lord Jesus is our righteousness, as our righteousness is as filthy rags. There are none righteous, no not one. It amazes me how you both try and excuse the fact that the Lord Himself preached "Repent ye for the kingdom of heaven is at hand". Matthew 4:17. It was Jesus Himself that preached the message of repentance to sinners. I do not understand why you both find a problem with this message. The Lord Jesus preached it, shouldn't we? The Lord Jesus told His disciples to preach the very same message that He preached, and in Matthew 10:7 He said; And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. So, preaching a message of repentance is our duty as followers of Jesus, for if one does not repent (turn from their sin), they will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. The true gospel message is one of repentance, and in Luke 13:3 The Lord Jesus said; I tell you, Nay: but except you repent, ye shall all likewise perish. The Lord was very clear in His message, and it is our solemn duty as His followers to preach this very same message. If we choose to preach a different gospel than the one our Lord preached then we are cursed, and we will have our reward.

The Lord Jesus in Revelation 2:19 states; As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. The Lord was speaking to Christians in this passage. We as His followers must also repent of our lukewarmness which is such a grievous sin that the Lord said in Revelation 3:16; So because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. We are to be zealous for the Lord and preach His gospel with love, mercy, and grace. However, the word of the Lord is sharper than any two-edged sword, and it divides the joints and marrow, and it divides asunder the soul and spirit, and is the discerner of the thoughts and the intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12. So with this in mind, preaching the true gospel of our Lord Jesus will indeed offend. It is therefore my duty to my Lord to preach that which He places upon my heart to preach. I am called just as you are called to be obedient to the calling that the Lord has placed upon our lives. We must preach the truth of the God's holy word no matter who gets offended, for we will give an account one day of what we did with the talents that our Lord has given to us. Did we hide them in the ground, or did we invest them wisely? I want my Lord to tell me "well done my good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of thy Lord". I am sure that you both want the same as well.

So, I will humbly say to you both, fervently pray and read and study God's holy word, and stop listening to the prosperity preachers who preach a false gospel. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 states; And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. The strong delusion today is the lukewarm false gospel that is being preached from the majority of pulpits. The Lord is calling us to repent of our lukewarmness. He is calling us to take up our cross and follow Him. We must forsake the doctrines of devils and of men, and follow the word of God to the letter. We are "all" going to fall short and sin, for any man that says he is without sin is a liar and the truth is not in him. Our advocate is indeed our Lord Jesus, and He is our mediator. 1 Timothy 2:5 states; For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men; the man Christ Jesus. The Lord is our faithful high priest. Hebrews 4:15 states; For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all ways tempted like as we are, yet without sin. The Lord knows that we are going to fall short, but this is no excuse for sin. Without the Lord's shed blood on Calvary, none of would be saved. Salvation is a gift of God, and is freely given by God to any and all that will receive the Lord Jesus into their hearts. One must ask forgiveness for their sins, and repent of them as well. Like I said, we will all fall short for this is the human condition. However, when we do sin, we must ask the Lord to forgive us our sins and then we are to turn from them as well. When we live a lifestyle of sin, we trample the grace of God, and we are then turned back and away from the Lord. We then become in essence prodigal sons and daughters, who must come back to the Father asking and seeking forgiveness for the sins that we have committed. The scriptures are very clear on this, and for anyone to teach that one cannot "backslide" into a lifestyle of sin is clearly not discerning what God's word truly says.

Again, thank you for your comments. I greatly appreciate them, and I hope that what I have written in response gives food for thought. Many Blessings to the both of you.

 


Saul | Thu Mar 07, 2013, 06:03

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 CrowBear, I do not listen to prosperity preachers. I am lead by the scriptures and the Holy Spirit only, and do not follow what man's teachings are. 1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things and is truth and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shalll abide in him. 

I walk what I talk, and have the fruits of the Spirit.

How can a mind be renewed while still focusing on sin? It can't be and isn't, you constantly focus on sin and the physical nature of the world. We attract what we focus on. We also submit to our hearts to what we think about. What comes out of our mouths shows us, where our heart is. Writing is even more true, because it comes directly from and to the heart. It is Jesus only, that changes us. From the inside out, not from the external in. If we are focused on the external, not sinning, then there will be no change, for we are still focused in the physical. Jesus healed me, saved me and has changed me. Because I seek Him and I have no sin-conscienceness not of myself, but In Christ. When you look at the world, you see sin everywhere. When I look at the world, I see past the sin, knowing it is of the devil and see only a person that needs to be shown God's true nature......Love! Perfect Love casts out all fear. 


Saul | Thu Mar 07, 2013, 07:03

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 your quote: it amazes me how you both try and excuse the fact that the Lord Himself preached "Repent ye for the kingdom of heaven is at hand".  

Of course it does, cause neither one of us have denied that. The ways of the spirit are foolish to the flesh. 


CrowBear33 | Thu Mar 07, 2013, 11:03

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 Saul...thanks for your comment. I understand what you are saying, and like I said before, I agree somewhat with what you are saying. However, I must take issue with the idea that all I am focusing on is sin. I am focusing on the gospel of our Lord Jesus and nothing more. We are called to preach against sin and call all men to repentance. This is the true gospel message, and to minimize the fact that all men are sinners and to refrain from preaching this message of repentance and forgiveness of sins is to preach a false gospel. I hope that you will ask The Lord for direction concerning this, and I pray that you will understand that what I am preaching, I am doing it in love as the gospel message is one of love. 

My main concern is for the souls of men, and their salvation. I trust that your main concern is this as well. So, with that in mind I will remember you in my prayers, and I hope you will do the same for me as well. God Bless.

 


Saul | Fri Mar 08, 2013, 08:03

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 CrowBear, I do not ever minimize the effects of sin. Let me clear one thing up, Grace is very misunderstood, especially by those that think grace is a license to sin. Grace is never a license to sin. Grace is unmerited favor, but futhering that, it is God's Ability and Power. If we are walking in sin, we cannot operate in God's Abilities and Power. Our disagreement is on how to bring people to Christ, keep them there and operate daily in a life free from sin. We are drawn to the Father by His Love. We Love Him, because He first Loved us. Jesus drew people to Him (still does), by His Love, mercy, kindness, longsuffering etc...He never once brow-beat a sinner with Him pointing out their sins. He first showed compassion, by healing them. He held contempt and showed anger towards those(Pharisees and Sadducees) who had no mercy or forgiveness. They (Pharisees), went by the letter of the law and pointed to the sinners sin and condemned them. Jesus forgave the sinner, but condemned the Pharisees. The bottom line is this, trying to put a fear of being condemned for eternity into a non-believer or even a "back slidden" believer doesn't work. Eternity is an abstract thought and isn't enough to hold a person true to Christ. Love is what people are searching for and I'm talking about unconditional God's Love. God's Love is not based on how we act, He loves us no matter what. Having a true manifestation and understanding of His Love is what keeps us loving Him.

A non-believer/backslider knows their behaviour is wrong, there is no need to even point that out. Focusing on their behaviour only causes more of it. Christians by and large are the most condemning people on the face of the earth and Jesus wasn't like that nor was His example to us. How dare we who have done the same things as non-believers condemn them for their actions! Take away Christ and in spirit we look the same to the Father as a thief murderer etc.... a sin is a sin period. Truthfully there are not many that have sinned as much as I have, in my past I would have beat you badly just for saying you are a Christian. So how dare I point the finger at a non-believer and judge them by their present action. Instead, we should be showing them the Love Christ has shown us.

Now add Christ's Sacrifice and now I am made righteous by HIS Ability and Power. It is His Ability and Power, that causes me to live my life substantially free from sin and without condemnation. It is also with His Ability and Power, I live as a true disciple should and lay hands on the sick and they do recover! When I do sin, then it is because of losing focus of Christ and the scriptures, ie I failed to renew my mind on a daily basis. Crucifying the flesh is simply by thinking about spiritual matters and not the physical world. I operate in the physical world using my five senses, but they don't use me. I am more sensitive to the spirit then to my five senses.  This is walking in the spirit. These are things that should be taught, as members of the Body of Christ our focus should be on healing others, helping others and being victorous cause Christ earned the victory for us. Yes, if we can be convicted of being a Believer, then there will be persecution and I welcome them and challenge Satan to send his best at me cause in Christ he cannot touch me. The worst he can do is to stir others up against me and kill me, wow is that all he's got?!! I've already been there, I was a barely breathing corpse, so what can he do? ........nothing. Then I'm with Jesus and the Father..............AWESOME!!! 


CrowBear33 | Fri Mar 08, 2013, 18:03

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Greetings Saul. It is clear to me that you are not understanding the message that I am putting forth. Let me clear up any misunderstanding. I understand grace and I understand sin. To say that one does not sin because they are under the law of grace is scripturally untrue. We are sinners saved by faith through grace by the shed blood of our Lord Jesus. We have a sin nature that we wrestle with eventhough we are saved. For "any" man to say that he does not sin he is calling the Lord a liar. That man that says that he does not sin is the liar, and the truth is not in him. So with that being said, read God's word and find out for yourself what He says concerning mankind and his sin nature. You have said that I am preoccupied with sin, and that to focus on this is to bring more sin upon my life. I must humbly disagree with you on both counts. So, let me clarify. My focus is on the Lord Jesus and His forgiveness of sins and His message of repentance. This is the true gospel message and I am going to preach it because this is what we are all called to do as Christians. We have been given the great commission and that is to preach the gospel of Jesus to every creature. Man has perverted His gospel and is therefore preaching a gospel other than the one that Jesus himself preached. Paul the Apostle wrote that anyone who preaches a gospel other than the one that he preached is occursed. I am therefore only preaching what the word of God says, and I will not compromise with the idea that another gospel is acceptable. For if I were to do that I would be denying my Lord, and may the Lord help me, that will never happen. So, we can go round and round about the sin vs. grace issue, but the word of God is very clear concerning this on many counts, and so to teach or preach anything that is contrary to the word of God is heresy, and we must be very careful when treading on this ground. I have no doubt that you are sincere Saul, and I believe that you love the Lord. However, if you would but seek the face of the Lord concerning this matter, He will lead you in all truth and He will speak to your heart concerning this issue.

I also want to say that I am not trying to take anything away from you with regards to grace. Grace is awesome, and without the grace of our Lord, none of us would be saved, nor would we even seek to be. It is by the Lord's grace and mercy alone that we are even breathing. Ephesians 2:8 states; For by grace are ye saved through faith; and not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Grace is a gift, and it is freely given to us. You are right about grace being unmerited favour. We definitely do not deserve it, and we must therefore treasure it and not trample it by sinning against our Lord. However, we can and do trample on God's grace, and when we do we must ask forgiveness and repent from doing so again. If we do not repent, and we continue living a lifestyle of sin, we will fall away from our Lord, and we will be given over to our own lusts and eventually a reprobate mind. I know that we all want to believe that we cannot backslide and fall away from our Lord, but God's word is very clear on this issue as well. The parable of the sower in Matthew 13 speaks to this very issue, I encourage you to read this parable as it will hopefully clear up some of the misunderstanding that we are having.

God Bless.

 


Saul | Fri Mar 08, 2013, 20:03

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 There isn't "trampling" on grace, if we are sinning we are not walking in or with God's Ability. It is God's Grace (ability) through Jesus that keeps us from sinning. I'll keep this short so you actually read my words. I have never stated that I am without sin. In fact, I stated that I have sinned far more than most. God's mercy is what you are describing not Grace. Grace through Faith, is absolute, I won't even boggle your mind that it isn't our faith that saves us, it's the Faith of Christ that saves us and allows us to operate in His Ability and Power. I'll leave it at that. The disagreement is quite simple...........I've been where you are and you haven't been where I have. No, I am not saying that I am any better than you or walking stronger in faith, the Father is no respecter of persons. In fact, I am weaker, that is where the Father's Grace shines for His Glory!


CrowBear33 | Fri Mar 08, 2013, 23:03

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Saul, Thank you for your comment. The definition of Grace: (Undeserved acceptance and love received from another). Hebrew word: Channan/Greek Word: Charis. The definition of Mercy: (compassion, pity, show mercy, lovingkindness). Hebrew word: hesed/Greek word: Eleos. Both words are used interchangably throughout God's holy word. I found an interesting quote that I believe sums up what grace and mercy are, and puts them both in their proper context. "Grace is where we get what we really don't deserve, and Mercy is where we don't get what we really do deserve." Jack Wellman.

I think that both grace and mercy are precious gifts from our Lord to us, and were it not for them, we wouid still be lost in our sin. I am only hoping that you will see that the Lord is calling us as His followers to live lives worthy of the vocation that wherewith we are called. Ephesians 4:1 states; I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called.

 

 


Saul | Sat Mar 09, 2013, 07:03

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 That is fine you can operate in your ability to live a righteous life. I will continue to operate In God's Ability and Power, through My Lord Jesus!


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