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Question "Ha Mashiach / The Christ / The Anointed" of the Catholic Church & THE CHRISTIAN NAME

Why is Jesus called the Christ? ... Secondly, ... Why are Catholics (The New People of God) called Christians*?

CHRIST

436 The word "Christ" comes from the Greek translation of the Hebrew Messiah, which means "anointed." It became the name proper to Jesus only because he accomplished perfectly the divine mission that "Christ" signifies. In effect, in Israel those consecrated to God for a mission that he gave were anointed in his name. This was the case for kings, for priests and, in rare instances, for prophets. [Cf. Ex 29:7; Lev 8:12; 1 Sam 9:16; 10:1; 16:1, 12-13; 1 Kings 1:39; 19:16.]

This had to be the case all the more so for the Messiah whom God would send to inaugurate his kingdom definitively. [Cf. Ps 2:2; Acts 4:26-27.] It was necessary that the Messiah be anointed by the Spirit of the Lord at once as king and priest, and also as prophet. [Cf. Isa 11:2; 61:1; Zech 4:14; 6:13: Lk 4:16-21.] Jesus fulfilled the messianic hope of Israel in his threefold office of priest, prophet, and king.

437 To the shepherds, the angel announced the birth of Jesus as the Messiah promised to Israel: "To you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord." [Lk 2:11.] From the beginning he was "the one whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world," conceived as "holy" in Mary's virginal womb. [Jn 10:36: cf. Lk 1:35.] God called Joseph to "take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit," so that Jesus, "who is called Christ," should be born of Joseph's spouse into the messianic lineage of David. [Mt 1:20; cf. Mt 1:16; Rom 1:1; 2 Tim 2:8; Rev 22:16.]




438 Jesus' messianic consecration reveals his divine mission, "for the name 'Christ' implies 'he who anointed,' 'he who was anointed' and 'the very anointing with which he was anointed.' The one who anointed is the Father, the one who was anointed is the Son, and he was anointed with the Spirit who is the anointing." [St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres., 3, 18, 3: PG 7/1, 934.]



His eternal messianic consecration was revealed during the time of his earthly life at the moment of his baptism by John, when "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power," "that he might be revealed to Israel" [Acts 10:38; Jn 1:31.] as its Messiah. His works and words will manifest him as "the Holy One of God." [Mk 1:24; Jn 6:69; Acts 3:14.]



439 Many Jews and even certain Gentiles who shared their hope recognized in Jesus the fundamental attributes of the messianic "Son of David," promised by God to Israel. [Cf. Mt 2:2; 9:27; 12:23; 15:22; 20:30; 21:9, 15.] Jesus accepted his rightful title of Messiah, though with some reserve because it was understood by some of his contemporaries in too human a sense, as essentially political. [Cf. Jn 4:25-26; 6:15; 11:27; Mt 22:41-46; Lk 24:21.]

440 Jesus accepted Peter's profession of faith, which acknowledged him to be the Messiah, by announcing the imminent Passion of the Son of Man. [Cf. Mt 16:16-23.] He unveiled the authentic content of his messianic kingship both in the transcendent identity of the Son of Man "who came down from heaven," and in his redemptive mission as the suffering Servant: "The Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." [Jn 3:13: Mt 20:28; cf. Jn 6:62; Dan 7:13; Isa 53:10-12.]

Hence the true meaning of his kingship is revealed only when he is raised high on the cross. [Cf. Jn 19:19-22; Lk 23:39-43.] Only after his Resurrection will Peter be able to proclaim Jesus' messianic kingship to the People of God: "Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified." [Acts 2:36.] [CCC (The Teaching of Christ), #436-440]

THE JOINT MISSION OF THE SON AND THE SPIRIT

689 The One whom the Father has sent into our hearts, the Spirit of his Son, is truly God. [Cf. Gal 4:6.] Consubstantial with the Father and the Son, the Spirit is inseparable from them, in both the inner life of the Trinity and his gift of love for the world. In adoring the Holy Trinity, life-giving, consubstantial, and indivisible, the Church's faith also professes the distinction of persons. When the Father sends his Word, he always sends his Breath. In their joint mission, the Son and the Holy Spirit are distinct but inseparable. To be sure, it is Christ who is seen, the visible image of the invisible God, but it is the Spirit who reveals him.

690 Jesus is Christ, "anointed," because the Spirit is his anointing, and everything that occurs from the Incarnation on derives from this fullness. [Cf. Jn 3:34.] When Christ is finally glorified, [Jn 7:39.] he can in turn send the Spirit from his place with the Father to those who believe in him: he communicates to them his glory, [Cf. Jn 17:22.] that is, the Holy Spirit who glorifies him. [Cf. Jn 16:14.] From that time on, this joint mission will be manifested in the children adopted by the Father in the Body of his Son: the mission of the Spirit of adoption is to unite them to Christ and make them live in him:
The notion of anointing suggests . . . that there is no distance between the Son and the Spirit. Indeed, just as between the surface of the body and the anointing with oil neither reason nor sensation recognizes any intermediary, so the contact of the Son with the Spirit is immediate, so that anyone who would make contact with the Son by faith must first encounter the oil by contact. In fact there is no part that is not covered by the Holy Spirit. That is why the confession of the Son's Lordship is made in the Holy Spirit by those who receive him, the Spirit coming from all sides to those who approach the Son in faith. [St. Gregory of Nyssa, De Spiritu Sancto, 16: PG 45, 1321A-B.]
[CCC (The Teaching of Christ), #689-690]

ONE OF THE SYMBOLS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

695 Anointing. The symbolism of anointing with oil also signifies the Holy Spirit, [Cf. 1 Jn 2:20:27; 2 Cor 1:21.] to the point of becoming a synonym for the Holy Spirit. In Christian initiation, anointing is the sacramental sign of Confirmation, called "chrismation" in the Churches of the East. Its full force can be grasped only relation to the primary anointing accomplished by the Holy Spirit, that of Jesus. Christ (in Hebrew "messiah") means the one "anointed" by God's Spirit. There were several anointed ones of the Lord in the Old Covenant, pre-eminently King David. [Cf. Ex 30:22-32; 1 Sam 16:13.] But Jesus is God's Anointed in a unique way: the humanity the Son assumed was entirely anointed by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit established him as "Christ." [Cf. Lk 4:18-19; Isa 61:1.]

The Virgin Mary conceived Christ by the Holy Spirit who, through the angel, proclaimed him the Christ at his birth, and prompted Simeon to come to the temple to see the Christ of the Lord. [Cf. Lk 2:11, 26-27.] The Spirit filled Christ and the power of the Spirit went out from him in his acts of healing and of saving. [Cf. Lk 4:1; 6:19; 8:46.] Finally, it was the Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead. [Cf. Rom 1:4; 8:11.] Now, fully established as "Christ" in his humanity victorious over death, Jesus pours out the Holy Spirit abundantly until "the saints" constitute - in their union with the humanity of the Son of God - that perfect man "to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ": [Eph 4:13; cf. Acts 2:36.] "the whole Christ," in St. Augustine's expression. " [CCC (The Teaching of Christ), #695]



"For him hath God, the Father, sealed." (St. John 6:27)

"And John gave testimony, saying:
I saw the Spirit coming down,
as a dove from heaven,
and he remained upon him." (St. John 1:32)



Praised be Jesus the Anointed, the Holy One of God!

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* Christians: 838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church."323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist."324
Source: Catechism of the Catholic Church - IntraText


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YEHOSHUA THE SON OF MAN WAS A JEW OUT OF JUDA WHILE THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SPIRIT SON MESSIAS/CHRIST WAS NOT A JEW BUT RATHER A SPIRIT SENT BY YAH FIRST TO ISRAEL WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF EGYPTIAN BONDAGE TO BECOME THE FIRSTBORN SON OF YAH ( EXO 4:22 AND 1 PETER 1:11).

Elohim is a Spirit John 4:22 and the Father of spirits Heb 12:9.
Yah Elohim did not father mortal flesh that profiteth nothing. (John 6:63 KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

SPIRIT SON CHRIST………
Heb 2:14 KJV) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he (the spirit of Christ) also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he (the spirit of Christ) might destroy him (satan a fallen spirit) that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

He (the only begotten spirit Son Christ) also himself likewise took part (during the 3 years ministry of Yehoshua 30 AD to 33 AD ) of the same (Rom 8:3 likeness of sinful flesh) of Yehoshua the son of man , the seed of David ( 2 Tim 2:8) his father. = (Rom 8:3 KJV) ……., God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

SEED of DAVID = (2 Tim 2:8 KJV) Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

YEHOSHUA'S FATHER DAVID = Luke 1:32 KJV) He Yehoshua shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and YHWH-YaH Elohim shall give unto Yehoshua the throne of Yehoshua's father David:

LUKE 4:18 IS WHEN YEHOSHUA WAS CHRISTENED WITH THE SPIRIT SON MESSIAS.CHRIST
YaH a Spirit anointed Yehoshua with the spirit Son Christ when Yehoshua was about 30 years of age for his 3 year ministry to the circumcision Israel. (Rom 15:8 KJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

Luke 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of YHWH-YaH is upon me Yehoshua , because YaH ( a Spirit) hath anointed (Christened) me Yehoshua to preach the gospel to the poor; he (YHWH God) hath sent me the spirit Son Christ in Yehoshua to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Yehoshua was the son of man a Jew out of Juda who at age 30 was Christened, that is, he received the spirit Son Christ.
The baptism of John Baptist ( Elias) revealed to John Baptist ( Elias) that Yehoshua was the lamb of YaH ( lUKE 1:31-32.

ISRAEL WAS THAT LAMB FROM WHICH CAME YEHOSHUA THE SON OF MAN A JEW OUT OF JUDA AS THE LAMB OF GOD (Heb 7:14 KJV) For it is evident that our master sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.


Israel was a lamb of YaH =(Hosea 4:16 KJV) For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: now the LORD will feed them as a lamb in a large place.
But Yehoshua becomes the Lamb of YaH that would take away the sins of the world. World here is to mean the world created by YaH and not the imitation world in which satan is the god of.

Always a Friend in Mashiach/Messias/Christ, Shalom willyah

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YEHOSHUA THE SON OF MAN WAS A JEW OUT OF JUDA WHILE THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SPIRIT SON MESSIAS/CHRIST WAS NOT A JEW BUT RATHER A SPIRIT SENT BY YAH FIRST TO ISRAEL WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF EGYPTIAN BONDAGE TO BECOME THE FIRSTBORN SON OF YAH ( EXO 4:22 AND 1 PETER 1:11).

Elohim is a Spirit John 4:22 and the Father of spirits Heb 12:9.
Yah Elohim did not father mortal flesh that profiteth nothing. (John 6:63 KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

SPIRIT SON CHRIST………
Heb 2:14 KJV) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he (the spirit of Christ) also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he (the spirit of Christ) might destroy him (satan a fallen spirit) that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

He (the only begotten spirit Son Christ) also himself likewise took part (during the 3 years ministry of Yehoshua 30 AD to 33 AD ) of the same (Rom 8:3 likeness of sinful flesh) of Yehoshua the son of man , the seed of David ( 2 Tim 2:8) his father. = (Rom 8:3 KJV) ……., God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
It almost sounds like you are speaking about Two Christs ... you probably are referring to the Two Natures of Christ, Divine and Human (I don't know)? ... (I am not so sure that you believe that Jesus is True God).

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SEED of DAVID = (2 Tim 2:8 KJV) Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

YEHOSHUA'S FATHER DAVID = Luke 1:32 KJV) He Yehoshua shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and YHWH-YaH Elohim shall give unto Yehoshua the throne of Yehoshua's father David:

LUKE 4:18 IS WHEN YEHOSHUA WAS CHRISTENED WITH THE SPIRIT SON MESSIAS.CHRIST
... Jesus is the Christ and the Christ is Jesus.




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YaH a Spirit anointed Yehoshua with the spirit Son Christ when Yehoshua was about 30 years of age for his 3 year ministry to the circumcision Israel. (Rom 15:8 KJV) Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

Luke 4:18 KJV) The Spirit of YHWH-YaH is upon me Yehoshua , because YaH ( a Spirit) hath anointed (Christened) me Yehoshua to preach the gospel to the poor; he (YHWH God) hath sent me the spirit Son Christ in Yehoshua to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Not the "spirit Son Christ" ... but the Holy Spirit.

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Yehoshua was the son of man a Jew out of Juda who at age 30 was Christened, that is, he received the spirit Son Christ.
He is the Son Christ ... Jesus did not receive the "spirit Son Christ".

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The baptism of John Baptist ( Elias) revealed to John Baptist ( Elias) that Yehoshua was the lamb of YaH ( lUKE 1:31-32.

ISRAEL WAS THAT LAMB FROM WHICH CAME YEHOSHUA THE SON OF MAN A JEW OUT OF JUDA AS THE LAMB OF GOD (Heb 7:14 KJV) For it is evident that our master sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.


Israel was a lamb of YaH =(Hosea 4:16 KJV) For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: now the LORD will feed them as a lamb in a large place.
But Yehoshua becomes the Lamb of YaH that would take away the sins of the world. World here is to mean the world created by YaH and not the imitation world in which satan is the god of.

Always a Friend in Mashiach/Messias/Christ, Shalom willyah
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AHJE QUOTE: It almost sounds like you are speaking about Two Christs ... you probably are referring to the Two Natures of Christ, Divine and Human (I don't know)? ... (I am not so sure that you believe that Jesus is True God).
...................................
WILLYAH REPLY: TRUE GOD
(Jer 10:10 KJV) But YHWH-YaH is the true God, He is the LIVING GOD, and an EVERLASTING KING: at His wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

Jesus the son of man a Jew out of Juda is not TRUE YaH/God. Was not Jesus dead three days? Is not TRUE GOD the EVERLASTING LIVING GOD?
How can you be dead three days and be EVERLASTING or the LIVING GOD while being a DEAD GOD?
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AHJE QUOTE: Jesus is the Christ and the Christ is Jesus.

WILLYAH REPLY: JESUS IS CHRIST BUT HE HAD TO BE ANOINTED ( CHRISTENED) IN ORDER TO BE CHRIST
If they were one and the same always, why was Paul teaching the Jews that this Jesus is Christ?

(Acts 17:1 KJV) Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:

(Acts 17:2 KJV) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

(Acts 17:3 KJV) Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

THE SPIRIT OF GOD'S MOUTH

(2 Th 2:8 KJV) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom YHWH-YAH shall consume with the spirit of God's mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of God's coming:

I believe the spirit of God's mouth is the only begotten spirit Son Christ who is in the bosom of God.

(John 1:18 KJV) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

The son of man Jesus would not have seen God but the the spirit Son Christ would have seen the Holy God the Holy Father of spirits.

The Father God is Spirit ( John 4:24)
The Father is Spirit and the Father of spirits Heb 12:9.

God the Holy Father never Fathered a mortal rather Eve is the mother of all living mortals who die once.

God a Spirit, the Holy Father of spirits, of male and female spirits Gen 1:27 did not Father death rather He Fathered eternal spirits.

CHRIST MEANS ANOINTED AND THE ANOINTING IS THE SPIRIT SON IN THE BOSOM OF HIS HOLY GOD AND FATHER A SPIRIT

(Gal 4:6 KJV) And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

(Gal 4:7 KJV) Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ/Anointing.

(Rom 8:9 KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in Christ's Spirit-G4151, if so be that Christ's SpiritG4151 of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Christ's SpiritG4151 of anointing-G5547, he is none of Christ's Spirit.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,G4151 if so be that the SpiritG4151 of GodG2316 dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SpiritG4151 of Christ,G5547 he is none of his.G848

IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH
(Rom 8:3 KJV) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

God a Spirit, the Holy Father of spirits sent His own Son ( the spirit Son Christ ) to reside in the likeness of sinful flesh.
And who was this likeness of sinful flesh if not Jesus a Jew out of Juda out of Israel who was the Firstborn Son of God (Exo 4:22 KJV) And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith YHWH-YaH, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Therefore Jesus of Israel , of Nazareth, out of Juda was the likeness of sinful flesh in which the spirit Son Christ in Luke 4:18 is seen sent by the Holy Father a Spirit so as to reside in Jesus the likeness of sinful flesh making Jesus that Anointed/Christened prophet of (Deu 18:18 KJV) I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

(Luke 4:18 KJV) Christ's spirit-G4151 of supremacy-G2962 is upon me (Jesus), because God hath anointed me Jesus to preach the gospel to the poor; God hath sent me (Jesus) to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

I am going to hold up here with the answering of how I came to my conclusions in regard to your asking me about my OP #2. I realize I did not answer all your questions and if you want me to continue to explain my conclusions regarding OP #2 I will gladly do so in the future YaH willing.

Always a Friend in the Sincerity and Truth that is Christ, Shalom willyah

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