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Old 02-21-2013, 06:55 PM
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Can a person prepare to receive God's grace by drinking blood and eating flesh?

The Bible states in both the NT and the OT that consuming blood is a sin. Is a ceremony that claims to change wine to blood in actuality an ceremony that invites in a demonic presence that brings those that innocently partake in bondage to continued sin?

Does this give the religious organization control over people's lives and finances?
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:46 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen such a question posed in a Christian forum.
Interesting.

Maybe this will allow you insight?

A DIALOGUE: THE EUCHARIST, PART II
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Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

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Old 02-21-2013, 08:33 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen such a question posed in a Christian forum.
Interesting.

Maybe this will allow you insight?

A DIALOGUE: THE EUCHARIST, PART II
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Christopher J. Aubert
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"Hebrews 7:11-12 tells us the Levitical Law has passed away with the advent of the New Covenant. A New Testament commandment always abrogates an Old Testament commandment." http://www.totustuus.com/TheEucharistPart2.pdf

Here is what the NT says about blood:
Acts 15:20

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20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,[a] from things strangled, and from blood.
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[a] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:48 PM
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"Hebrews 7:11-12 tells us the Levitical Law has passed away with the advent of the New Covenant. A New Testament commandment always abrogates an Old Testament commandment." http://www.totustuus.com/TheEucharistPart2.pdf

Here is what the NT says about blood:
Acts 15:20

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20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,[a] from things strangled, and from blood.
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[a] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
But we are nevertheless to drink the blood of Jesus, are we not?
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But we are nevertheless to drink the blood of Jesus, are we not?
Scripture please that says wine changes to blood during any religious rite.
Can a person prepare to receive God's grace by drinking blood and eating flesh?
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Scripture please that says wine changes to blood during any religious rite.
I did not say anything about a religious rite of changing wine into blood? Are you presuming that I practice such a rite?

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Can a person prepare to receive God's grace by drinking blood and eating flesh?
If the blood is the Spirit of God and the flesh is the scripture then will not the Spirit bring the scripture to Life within us? What more is needed?
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I did not say anything about a religious rite of changing wine into blood? Are you presuming that I practice such a rite?



If the blood is the Spirit of God and the flesh is the scripture then will not the Spirit bring the scripture to Life within us? What more is needed?
John 6:63

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63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
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63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Amen, my friend, amen! So what flesh is it that we are to eat?

"For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him." John 6:55-56

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14
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63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Right, and this indicates the Anamnesis and Epiklesis. "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you" (John 6:53).

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Scripture please that says wine changes to blood during any religious rite.
Can a person prepare to receive God's grace by drinking blood and eating flesh?
It is spiritual blood and flesh, not physical.

Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.


That was before the physical crucifixion.

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.


Does it offend you? It offended others when Jesus said it:

60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


Is it the Body of Christ in fact? Paul says it is and says people risk damnation if they partake unworthily.

1 Corinthians 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

If it was mere bread and wine, how could that be?
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