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Old 04-20-2011, 08:50 PM
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Omnipotent vs. Almighty

Per other discussion, but so that I don't derail other thread in which it was brought up.

God has the power to do anything. However, as the omnibeneficent Pantokrator (Almighty-ruler) He does not choose to do everything that He has the power to do. That He has the power to do something and chooses not to do it in no way negates His omnipotence.

For example (condescending to our level for sake of example), a police officer has the power to write us a speeding ticket after he has pulled us over for speeding. That he chooses not to exercise this power in a particular case in no way negates that he has this power.
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:11 AM
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Omnipotent vs. Almighty

Per other discussion, but so that I don't derail other thread in which it was brought up.

God has the power to do anything. However, as the omnibeneficent Pantokrator (Almighty-ruler) He does not choose to do everything that He has the power to do. That He has the power to do something and chooses not to do it in no way negates His omnipotence.

For example (condescending to our level for sake of example), a police officer has the power to write us a speeding ticket after he has pulled us over for speeding. That he chooses not to exercise this power in a particular case in no way negates that he has this power.
In a similar fashion, one could say that God's forgiveness of sins is a free gift, something He's not obliged to do; in theory He would be able not to forgive us when we truly repent. In practice however we find the Power of God being used in a manner that balances His Perfect Wisdom and Mercy.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Nor should we imagine that God could lie.

Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

These limits on God are self-imposed. Is that not a wonderful thing?

Perhaps there's hope for us if we try to imitate Him, learning how to abstain out of wisdom or love from some things we could do.


Proverbs 16:32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:44 AM
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In a similar fashion, one could say that God's forgiveness of sins is a free gift, something He's not obliged to do; in theory He would be able not to forgive us when we truly repent. In practice however we find the Power of God being used in a manner that balances His Perfect Wisdom and Mercy.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Nor should we imagine that God could lie.

Hebrews 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

These limits on God are self-imposed. Is that not a wonderful thing?

Perhaps there's hope for us if we try to imitate Him, learning how to abstain out of wisdom or love from some things we could do.


Proverbs 16:32 He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.
Correct, His "cannots" and "impossibilities" are kat'thelimon (according to will) not kat'dynamein (according to power). His omnipotence (the potential and power to do anything that He wills) does not in anyway imply that He must excercise the power. He bounds Himself by His eternal will not to sin, thus it is at once true, as Scripture tells us, that it is impossible for Him to sin kat'thelimon, but at the same time, "with God nothing is impossible" (kat'dynamein).
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:04 PM
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A god that exercises his power in a less than perfect way (doing something just to show he can) would be a 'less perfect' god... not truly 'worthy' of worship.
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:34 PM
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A god that exercises his power in a less than perfect way (doing something just to show he can) would be a 'less perfect' god... not truly 'worthy' of worship.
I agree that such a god would not be worthy of our worship. The human mind can conceive the concept of a Perfect God and nothing less is satisfactory. Indeed I believe the human mind was given to us with the purpose of coming to understand more about God. Conceiving foolish ideas is a waste of the human mind.

People may ask if that is judging God? I don't think so. It's faith in God. If things look wrong to us and we think maybe God made a mistake, we should check our own thinking. If we have faith in Him being right and can understand it, then we can become right too.
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