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When the people of God go into the western places they use western names. Jesus knew we would be his people so all their names were changed. Like Esther, her real name was hidden but later revealed to save her people.So this is sayiny to me that the Dicipled are really the Isrealites and we are their continuation. When thy say bar something, it means taken out of so bar Jona is like saying Peter bar Jona is one taken out of the belly of the fish or taken out of the teachings of the world. Another example is Jesus bar Joseph,Joseph was sold as a slave and rulled Egypt so it means to me Jesus was to be sold and delivere a a slave. Well I mean the things that happened to Joseph would happen to Jesus. Allso the name Jew doesn't men Judah, The jews mean the thee tribes of Juda, benjamin and Levi. The name Mary means most beautiful and when a bride disobays her husband she is cast out and a beautiful virgin is sought out. So for the lord that would mean a undefiled church with the tree flowering . And that means ready to blossom and bring forth fruit.