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African American leaders blast NAACP 'gay marriage' support
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Washington D.C., May 23, 2012 / 02:03 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The NAACP's recent endorsement of “gay marriage” drew harsh criticism from within the African American community for misrepresenting civil rights and undermining families.

Pastor Derek McCoy, executive director of the Maryland Marriage Alliance, said that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's “unfortunate” stance on the issue will contribute to the “further demise of the family.”

McCoy told CNA on May 21 that the NAACP is “endorsing an epidemic” of fatherless households, a “tragic” phenomenon in the United States and particularly in the African American community.

On May 19, the association released a statement in support of redefining marriage to include gay couples. The announcement came ten days after President Barack Obama announced his unprecedented support for “gay marriage.”

McCoy said that despite its long record of important work, however, the NAACP's latest move does not reflect the views of its constituents.

According to an April 2012 survey by Pew Research Center, only 39 percent of African Americans are in favor of redefining marriage. Voters across the country have consistently affirmed measures to defend marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

McCoy said that redefining marriage is redefining the family in a way that is “hazardous” for children.

“Gay marriage” teaches that fathers and mothers are both dispensable, he explained, and “this is absolutely going to harm the family.”

The absence of a father has been linked to higher rates of crime, poverty, drug abuse and teenage pregnancy throughout the U.S.

In his 2011 Father’s Day proclamation, President Obama noted the importance of fatherhood and said that his administration was making support of fathers a priority. “A father's absence is felt by children, families, and communities in countless ways, leaving a hole that can have lasting effects,” he said.

Statistics show that more than half of black children live in single-parent households, often lacking the presence of a father.

Support for “gay marriage,” McCoy underscored, reiterates the message that “one of the parents is no longer valid.”

Both fathers and mothers become “optional” in a society where having one father is viewed as no different from having two or none at all, he said.

The pastor explained that government has always recognized marriages in order to “look out for the best interest of the child.” Studies clearly show that a family with a mother and a father “is the best place for kids to be raised,” he noted.

McCoy also said that the effort to redefine marriage “does not compare to civil rights.”

He dismissed attempts to compare people who reject “gay marriage” to those who oppose interracial marriage.

“That’s not the same issue at all,” he said, reflecting that racial differences are irrelevant to marriage, but sexual complementarity is at the heart of marriage by its very nature.

“The core essence of a marriage is the two sexes coming together,” he said.

Other African American leaders have also criticized the NAACP’s endorsement of “gay marriage” in recent days.

Dr. Alveda C. King, niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., said that neither her grandfather nor her uncle “embraced the homosexual agenda that the current NAACP is attempting to label as a civil rights agenda.”

“We who marched with Rev. King did not march one inch or one mile to promote same-sex marriage,” agreed Rev. William Owens, founder and president of the Coalition of African American Pastors.

He explained that redefining marriage is counter to Dr. King’s work because it is a political attempt to “declare that an act contrary to God's law and to the natural law is a civil right.”

“We call on all Americans to respect the legitimate civil rights of gay people to be free from violence, harassment, to vote, to hold jobs,” Owens said. “But none of us has a moral or civil right to redefine marriage.”
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:28 PM
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They don't seem to represent the majority of black American views:

The movement over the last two months can be explained almost entirely by a major shift in opinion about same-sex marriage among black voters. Previously 56% said they would vote against the new law with only 39% planning to uphold it. Those numbers have now almost completely flipped, with 55% of African Americans planning to vote for the law and only 36% now opposed.

As it currently stands, Maryland will be the first state to uphold marriage equality by referendum. I don't actually believe the right to create family among two consenting adults should be subject to the whims of a majority--black or not.

With that said, if these numbers hold, will be a major statement. It would not simply mean that same-sex marriage held by a majority vote, but that it did so in one of the blackest states in the country. I don't think that says anything distinctive about African-Americans, except that in the climate, it seems exceptional to point out that black people are, in fact, not aliens permanently in the grip of pathology, but Americans. Politics - Ta-Nehisi Coates - Black Voters Evolving On Marriage Equality - The Atlantic
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They don't seem to represent the majority of black American views........
Just out of curiosity, what does a white Australian know about the majority of black Americans?

I know what you are saying is wrong because my friends come in all colors, and I don't know any black person who is cool with gay marriage.
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Just out of curiosity, what does a white Australian know about the majority of black Americans?
Is that how you judge the opinions of the majority of people? By talking to friends?

I think that that might be part of the problem.
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Is that how you judge the opinions of the majority of people? By talking to friends?

I think that that might be part of the problem.
That certainly is the problem.
Opinions on the marriage issue are changing especially with younger people. Honestly though I don’t think opponents will acknowledge the shift in public opinion until marriage equality wins at the ballot box. The younger generations that are more accepting are less likely to vote then segments of the population that are less accepting which is why approval at the ballot box is lagging behind approval in opinion polls however that gap will soon close perhaps as early as this year.
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Just out of curiosity, what does a white Australian know about the majority of black Americans?

I know what you are saying is wrong because my friends come in all colors, and I don't know any black person who is cool with gay marriage.
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Is that how you judge the opinions of the majority of people? By talking to friends?........
No, but its better than judging people you never met from half a globe away. And God only knows what sort of leftist sources of information you are using.

I suggest you look at the voting results of African Americans whenever this subject comes up for a vote. They overwhelmingly vote against same sex marriage, and as they say, the only poll that really counts is the voting booth
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Poll finds most Colombians oppose gay adoption
>> Poll finds most Colombians oppose gay adoption :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

Bogotá, Colombia, May 25, 2012 / 12:09 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- An overwhelming majority of Colombians have voiced opposition to a ruling by the country’s Constitutional Court granting homosexuals the right to adopt.

According to the first online poll taken since the ruling by Noticias Caracol, 67 percent of respondents said they oppose the decision.

By 10:30 a.m. on May 24, some 9,000 votes had been taken in the poll. More than 7,000 respondents said they disagreed with allowing same-sex couples to adopt children.

Colombia’s Constitutional Court recently ruled that Charles Ellis Burr, a columnist with the New York Times, could legally adopt two children who already reside with him in New York. Burr, a practicing homosexual, had concealed his orientation from the adoption agency and country officials.

In December, a judge in Bogota granted Burr permission to leave the country with the children. But Colombia’s Attorney General appealed the ruling, arguing that Burr did not reveal his homosexuality and was not subjected to a thorough personal review.

The Attorney General also asked the adoption agency to follow up on Burr’s case monthly and to review the policy on how adoption requests from single-parent families or single persons are processed.

The court ruled in favor of Burr, however, and the Attorney General's office is now expected to appeal the court’s ruling and request it be overturned
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Bolivian bishops urge against passage of gay union law
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La Paz, Bolivia, May 24, 2012 / 04:05 pm (CNA).- The bishops of Bolivia told the country's lawmakers that the State has the duty to protect marriage between a man and a woman, urging them to not adopt a that a bill allowing same-sex unions.

In a statement issued May 23, the bishops warned that the bill is “a grave threat to the family” as it has been understood throughout Bolivian history and society. The proposed bill is currently in committee and no date has been set for it vote before the full congress.

In their remarks, the bishops noted that the country’s Constitution recognizes marriage as “only between one man and one woman.”

Marriage is defined by the fact that it is “a social institution based on sexual complimentarity. This makes the fulfillment of the two equal ends of marriage possible: the mutual love between the spouses and the procreation of children.”

In addition, they added, Christ raised it “to the level of a sacrament, as a sign of his love for the Church.”

Homosexual unions, on the other hand, are incapable of “generating life, ensuring the full development of children and ensuring the continuity of society,” the bishops said.

“Allowing children to live with such couples poses a danger to their normal psycho-social development and is an attack on their rights.”

The bishops also noted that the fact that same-sex relationships are not recognized as marriage does not equal discrimination.

“The civil rights of homosexuals should be regulated by common law, like those of any other citizen. Every human being, as a child of God, deserves to be recognized and respected in his or her dignity and fundamental rights,” the bishops said.

They encouraged Bolivians to “defend the principles and values of marriage and the family as institutions” that bring “true human happiness and contribute to the stability and continuity of society.”
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Bolivian bishops urge against passage of gay union law
>> Bolivian bishops urge against passage of gay union law :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)

Ah yes a look at South America that had a lot of recent progress toward eliminating discrimination against gay people. Now if all the things the bishops warned of were true there would be something to be worried about however there are multiple inaccuracies.

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Marriage is defined by the fact that it is “a social institution based on sexual complimentarily.
The first part of this is true in the civil sense, marriage is a social institution and in some cases there is also a religious aspect to that social intuition. However the second part of that statement is not true, marriage is not based on sexual complimentarily but rather a sexual union between two people. The ability to procreate is not a basis or requirement for marriage and so both homosexual and heterosexual couples have the ability to have a sexual union and have mutual love between the spouses.

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Homosexual unions, on the other hand, are incapable of “generating life, ensuring the full development of children and ensuring the continuity of society,
Let’s look at the three points, yes homosexual couples cant procreate however that is not a requirement of marriage, the social science that we have on homosexual parenting has been clear that homosexual parents are just as able to ensure the full development of children as heterosexual couples and so there is no basis for saying that homosexual couples cant adequately raise children. Finally homosexuals don’t procreate and thus don’t continue society through reproducing but again many heterosexual couples don’t either.

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Allowing children to live with such couples poses a danger to their normal psycho-social development and is an attack on their rights.
Again there is zero evidence for this statement and actually the social science data that we have shows the opposite is true, allowing homosexual couples to have children in no way harms the development of children and in no way infringes on their rights.


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the fact that same-sex relationships are not recognized as marriage does not equal discrimination.
Again we go back to civil law and ask the question does the law treat a homosexual couple that can’t reproduce and has two adopted children the same as a heterosexual couple that cant reproduce and has two adopted children. If the law doesn’t treat these two things the same then there is an obvious inequality or discrimination in the law.
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