Conditioning Our Children to Endorse Homosexuality is NOT Acceptable


I'm no expert. I'm a concerned Christian and that's it. I turn to all of you, being Christians as well, for we have a problem that must be addressed...

Please take the time to view the two separate videos at link embedded below.

The minds of innocent children are being penetrated, warped, misled, and contaminated in public schools. This means tax dollars are paying for this, and it is absolutely unacceptable.

Although the actions of the various school districts are done with the "best intention" we must remember that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Children are being indoctrinated to accept and endorse (perhaps even try) homosexuality. This is wrong, and must be stopped.

The people engaged in homosexual activity are, more than likely, most times very good people - Good people who have made a most dreadful error in judgment.

Perhaps, they are responsible people with regard to their personal affairs. Yet, they are in violation of the only law that truly matters in the end, the Law of God.

They need help... badly. To die believing these infractions go unpunished, is to condemn oneself to certain DEATH.


Here's the link. Sorry for the novel I've given you all, but I think it makes the point concisely regarding this terrible situation:

Brainwashing our children in elementary schools about homosexuality


Abomination. That is how God refers to homosexuality.

Teaching "tolerance" for sin - especially sin that is considered abomination - is simply not acceptable. The choice to defile oneself is a choice of the self, but should not be forced upon unknowing hearts and minds.

We must be very careful here. Separate the people from the problem.

There is an enemy force here upon, within, without this world that is here to see to it that as many humans fail their Holy Father as possible before the return of Christ The King.

There is a war for souls that was won at the cross - by Christ. There are also these "peripheral skirmishes" that ensue... Satan wants to take as many of us with him as he can into that Lake of Fire.



The Word and Law of God Almighty on Sexual Immorality:

There are simply no uncertain terms in the directive from God regarding sexual morality. This makes good sense, because, had we chosen sexual morality, our gene pools would have been protected from things like herpes, AIDS, and a multitude of other sexually transmitted diseases.

This is not to say that homosexuals are solely responible for this - Heterosexual Adulterers and Fornicators alike are culpable.

What does the Bible say about all this?



An Abomination Comparable to Intercourse with Beasts

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Lev 18:22-23 (KJV)

This scripture warns of homosexuality in the same directive as warning against sexual immorality with beasts - with animals. This is obviously very wrong in the eyes of the LORD.

This is not saying the people engaging the acts of immorality are beasts - but that their actions are classified with the same acts with beasts/animals. In fact, it God stated that it is CONFUSION. This means CLARITY may be gained! Either way, it is not tolerable in the eyes of the LORD.

Death was to be the Penalty for Engaging the Confusion before Christ came and made all things new. BUT... just b/c Christ made all things new does NOT mean sexual immorality is now acceptable.


13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev 20:13 (KJV)

An "abomination" is what they will have committed. Not just "sin" for which they simply ask forgiveness, from which they then repent... but, rather... "abomination" is what has been engaged.

They are to be put to death - exterminated so as to not contaminate the population. These are harsh words, but the plagues of unnatural affections can cause serious detriment to the entire population. This was the law before Christ came to end death.


God Gave Them up to Vile Affections

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:26-32 (KJV)

The minds, hearts, and hands of unsuspecting human beings are being unknowingly influenced by the aforemented enemy (meaning Satan and his minions, many times through chemical, mental, emotional infiltration into another human being, that the offense be the offense of another of God's children) - yet all the decisions are our own, along with the accountability for our sins. We ARE ONE.

These people have fallen into a snare of Satan. This is NOT a metaphor.

This is not "dynamic illustration" at all. Rather, this is reality.

Satan remains out of sight for a reason. He is the ultimate deceiver and the father of all lies. Were he to rear his head and expose himself to humanity, he would be proving God is real, that Christ bled to death under a darkened sky in the cold that we might all survive... Satan will remain "out of sight, out of mind" until the appointed time.

There is no need to bash these poor souls who have fallen to the clutches of sexual immorality - there is a need to love them - to guide them. There is a need to try and warn them, that they be saved, and that their blood be off our own hands.

This is very serious.


Here's proof of that which appears in the last paragraph:

8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Ezek 33:8-9 (KJV)

Therefore, it is imperative that, when we see these things happening, that we, ourselves, warn these people (you'll note that the advent of technology makes it so you are found culpable for sins you have no way of warning the people about - this may seem outlandish - but this is part of the vast deception of the accuser - Satan) to repent of these sins, for if they do not and are lost to the lake of fire, then their blood is on our own hands for having done nothing to help.


The Same Concept Applied to Pilate With Regard to The Crucifixion of Christ:

24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. 25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. Matt 27:24-25 (KJV)


The Penalty for Allowing This to Happen:

To take initiative to mislead innocent children into believing that homosexuality is acceptable is a bitter bitter mistake, with unimaginable pain attached to it on the backend when judgment comes.

6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matt 18:6 (KJV)



Even God Almighty does not want to kill the wicked (the lost):

30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. 31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye. Ezek 18:30-32 (KJV)

He hopes against hope for them to repent their ways. If they honored their Father, all would be saved - Not so - we are immersed in a world that is a matrix of distraction and deception, where the lifeblood is not LOVE, but MONEY.

Allowing this practice to prosper is synonymous with condemning our own children to have fire thrust downward upon them, burning them to death for their iniquity. We too are included in the burning, for we acquiesced and allowed this to happen.

Our Father is truly amazing. He has given us an example by which we may read the times of this age to gain understanding. Sodom and Gomorrah were very real. The contamination of the hearts and souls of those people was utter and complete.

God gave us this reference that we might warn the masses today. There is an historical precedent for this behavior. To attach our children to these consequences is to condemn ourselves as well.


Sodom and Gomorrah - Contaminated with Immorality

13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly. Gen 13:13 (KJV)

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:7 (KJV)


The People Want to Defile the Visiting Angels

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Gen 19:5-7 (KJV)


When sexual immorality sprung forth like this in the past, there were dire consequences:

24 [i]Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. Gen 19:24-25 (KJV)

40 As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD; so shall no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein. Jer 50:40 (KJV)


What is the Penalty for the Offender?

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10 (KJV)

To engage this behavior, and do so without repentence implies certain death. This does not mean these are "bad people" - I say, NO, Not at ALL!

This means their offense is so greivous that God will not allow this type of contaminated thought process to infiltrate the Kingdom of Heaven - and begins by removing it from earth.


There is Hope Even for Those Who Would Sin in this Way

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Cor 6:11 (KJV)

We cannot condemn our children to this, and, in so doing, condemn ourselves. We must demand that this activity of indoctrination be a CHOICE left up to the parents. This is State-Sponsored Infiltration of Faith. It is not acceptable by any means.

Congresspeople, Senators, the President, the Vice President, the Governor (of your respective state), friends, family, and strangers alike, ALL need to stand up and STOP this from happening any longer.

Those who support homosexuality will argue it is their right. Unfortunately, that's not my argument, and it is their godgiven right to choos homosexuality.

My argument is that they are going to DIE an eternal death; they are creating for themselves a web of deception that can only lead to Hell. Is it sad? Yes. Even God almighty feels the weight of this - He says so in scripture. Yet, it is still true.

These poor people are committing a slow and elongated act of suicide - and must be warned of the truth - of the consequences... AND IT MUST BE DONE LOVINGLY:

6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 2 Thess 3:6 (KJV)

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. 2 Thess 3:14-15 (KJV)


A very wise man recently said to me: "you must be as wise as a serpent, and harmless as a dove..."

Should we apply that rule here, hearts might open to receiving the truth.

Either way, it all starts with the Christian Church (as a whole) demanding this type of behavior/indoctrination be caused to cease permenantly.

The minds of innocent children are being vigorously perverted, warped, and opened up to accept "abomination" as acceptable... as good... as harmless...

Abomination.

As we sit idly by and watch it bitterly unfold...

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Eph 6:10 (KJV)

The Ephesians Warrior

I watched the films and had these thought:

• Often the children said things that indicated they were fully aware of life styles independent of the classroom or this program. That is consistent with experience that children know about many matters of human behavior simply from their own experience,who they live with, their friend's families, that virtually every family has some connection with a homosexual person, TV, animals, etc. So as for most kids, such programs allow kids to deal with this subject matter with adult supervision and other than in bathrooms, school grounds etc.

• The program taught what the Constitution of the US provides--That all men and women are created equal, live and let live, tolerance, freedom, liberty, compassion, brotherhood, love of our neighbors. They were the same values of freedom and tolerance that allow those who presented these films to quote biblical verses out of context and urge social condemnation of other citizens.

• The messages at the end of the film were what was frightening. It set forth the message that what should be taught children is that GLBT people be feared and even eliminated because they present a threat to civilization.
  If our society actually believed in Leviticus or that GLBT persons actually were the worst threat to society, shouldn't they be rounded up and disposed of? Doesn't such teachings make killing or rat packing or terrorizing GLBT persons no more than what they deserve from God and society.

• We are all stewards of our constitutional rights. There is a parable that more will be taken from poor stewards and more given to Good stewards. As a RC, I was very proud to see nuns and priests marching with MLKing. Now if they were to march for people's rights, they would be suspended by Vatican influence. Christians should be at the front demanding the civil rights of all citizens instead of urging they be taken away. That makes us poor stewards.
  More and more, people are beginning to think the same thing about fundamentalist Christians as they think about fundamentalist Muslims--that it is they that are the destructive force in society and in opposition to God's love. It may come that rights that certain Christians want to take away from GLBT persons will be taken from them.
  Insisting that every one in this country has their full civil rights, even if we don't agree how they worship or live, is no more than loving our neighbor as ourselves.
  antonio

Originally Posted by antonio

I watched the films and had these thought:

• Often the children said things that indicated they were fully aware of life styles independent of the classroom or this program. That is consistent with experience that children know about many matters of human behavior simply from their own experience,who they live with, their friend's families, that virtually every family has some connection with a homosexual person, TV, animals, etc. So as for most kids, such programs allow kids to deal with this subject matter with adult supervision and other than in bathrooms, school grounds etc.

• The program taught what the Constitution of the US provides--That all men and women are created equal, live and let live, tolerance, freedom, liberty, compassion, brotherhood, love of our neighbors. They were the same values of freedom and tolerance that allow those who presented these films to quote biblical verses out of context and urge social condemnation of other citizens.

• The messages at the end of the film were what was frightening. It set forth the message that what should be taught children is that GLBT people be feared and even eliminated because they present a threat to civilization.
  If our society actually believed in Leviticus or that GLBT persons actually were the worst threat to society, shouldn't they be rounded up and disposed of? Doesn't such teachings make killing or rat packing or terrorizing GLBT persons no more than what they deserve from God and society.

• We are all stewards of our constitutional rights. There is a parable that more will be taken from poor stewards and more given to Good stewards. As a RC, I was very proud to see nuns and priests marching with MLKing. Now if they were to march for people's rights, they would be suspended by Vatican influence. Christians should be at the front demanding the civil rights of all citizens instead of urging they be taken away. That makes us poor stewards.
  More and more, people are beginning to think the same thing about fundamentalist Christians as they think about fundamentalist Muslims--that it is they that are the destructive force in society and in opposition to God's love. It may come that rights that certain Christians want to take away from GLBT persons will be taken from them.
  Insisting that every one in this country has their full civil rights, even if we don't agree how they worship or live, is no more than loving our neighbor as ourselves.
  antonio

Gays and lesbians have all the protections under the law that they need. What I'm afraid of is that the gays will find ways to silence the church, and that the church will no longer be able to preach and teach that change is possible and available to those who want it.

I think as Christians we forget one important thing...

We are to HATE SIN and LOVE THE SINNER. How do we get them to change if we turn our backs on them? God gave us all the choice to believe or not believe. Just like He gave us the decision to sin or not to sin. The same goes for homosexuals. So who are we to try to take their right to sin and die away from them? We are told to teach, not encroach. That's why people come to this country from others in the first place; for freedom. That's what this country was founded on. Protestants were being persecuted for their "heretical" beliefs and so they found a new place to live and do "what they wanted" and worship how they wanted. We all CHOOSE who we will serve and we (Christians) CHOSE to serve God. But the only "religions" that I can think of prior to us that try to MAKE people believe and therefore behave the way that we think is right; what's right for us are us and the pagans of Daniel's day. The Israelites and the pagans lived side by side...they (Israel) was told to have nothing to do with them but they didn't try to convert them. Then came Jesus and with love, He got many on God's side and if they didn't choose LIFE, He moved on. Jesus didn't ****** people up in the street and preach to them. He went and stood on a big rock or in a boat and people came to Him. Where do we hear from our Messiah that it's ok to treat people who don't do as our God says as if their dogs?

A true story...happened today: My God-daughter's brother is gay. They were watching something on television and something came on about expensive weddings--Elton John's was one of them. She (my God-daughter) was appalled, disgusted, and weirded out, and she's seven. No one taught her one way or the other about homosexuality, even with her having a gay brother, because it's not the time to tell her that and children are smart enough to draw their own conclusions. She asked "why would two boys want to marry each other?" "That's just weird and disgusting to me." Her older brother was hurt, but it was funny to him at the same time. She's not a childish child if you get what I'm saying, I guess what I'm saying is that she's wise beyond her years. We don't allow them to watch anything but shows for children so she knows nothing of homosexuality, but when she saw it, she came to her own conclusion about it, as will most if not all children.

Unfortunately the churche's record has not been to openly offer the opportunity to change if that is what someone wants. What the Church has historically done is drive gay and lesbian young people either into a closet filled with self hate or drive them out of the church. More and more churches have changed their stance on this issue and have become affirmatively welcoming to gays and lesbians. Those churches which wish to remain in the Leviticus mind-set should have the freedom to do that so long as what they do doesn't amount to child abuse.
Its interesting that some churches are so interested in changing homosexuals while statistically their congregations have far more spousal and child abusers and adulterers. But that's what freedom is all about.
antonio

[dominick2009]

First of all, you are not a good person, they are not good people and I am not a good person. ONLY God is Good. Is it not worse to be a liar and break a commandment than be a homosexual? I do not know myself. I will say it seems as if my friends truly believe they are born gay. In fact harvard did a study that proved that the inner ear of lesbians are the same as hetero males. Could Gay people overcome the issue by praying...of course. Just as we can become better people by praying. The only problem is that it seems that they are chastised for being gay in turn preventing them from being religous. If we chastised liars adultarers etc... we would have a lot less people in church. Instead we should be welcoming gays and lesbians as real people...real sinners just like us. Remember when men brought the women to jesus that had been caught in the act of adultery? The law says to stone her to death. Jesus said: let the one of you who has not sinned throw the first stone. AS CHRISTIANS, WE NEED TO STOP THROWING STONES.

LOVE AND PEACE

Originally Posted by bubbadave3

Gays and lesbians have all the protections under the law that they need. What I'm afraid of is that the gays will find ways to silence the church, and that the church will no longer be able to preach and teach that change is possible and available to those who want it.

And this is precisely one our points of failure in Christianity... for we are to abide by the law of man until it conflicts with the Law of God... then the Law of God IS superior...

This never should have been allowed by us. We took "freewill" to mean "do whatever YOU feel is right for YOU" instead of having taken it as:

Freewill is merely the space between YOU and GOD to PROVE your obedience to Him. PERIOD!


Peace & Love,

The Ephesians Warrior

Originally Posted by dominick2009

First of all, you are not a good person, they are not good people and I am not a good person. ONLY God is Good. Is it not worse to be a liar and break a commandment than be a homosexual? I do not know myself. I will say it seems as if my friends truly believe they are born gay. In fact harvard did a study that proved that the inner ear of lesbians are the same as hetero males. Could Gay people overcome the issue by praying...of course. Just as we can become better people by praying. The only problem is that it seems that they are chastised for being gay in turn preventing them from being religous. If we chastised liars adultarers etc... we would have a lot less people in church. Instead we should be welcoming gays and lesbians as real people...real sinners just like us. Remember when men brought the women to jesus that had been caught in the act of adultery? The law says to stone her to death. Jesus said: let the one of you who has not sinned throw the first stone. AS CHRISTIANS, WE NEED TO STOP THROWING STONES.

LOVE AND PEACE

Amen and Amen! It is ours to ADMONISH them as brothers... Not HATE them, for they are merely children who have ALSO been deceived by the enemy here upon the earth...

And when that woman stayed with Christ, He told her to go and SIN NO MORE!

This is a difficult one for us to decipher, b/c humanity has become sooooo very drunk on its collective lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life. We speak of PRIDE like its a GOOD thing to have ... "at least I've still got my pride" and other statements like this.

HUMILITY is where we really truly need to be...

TEW

Originally Posted by antonio

Unfortunately the churche's record has not been to openly offer the opportunity to change if that is what someone wants. What the Church has historically done is drive gay and lesbian young people either into a closet filled with self hate or drive them out of the church. More and more churches have changed their stance on this issue and have become affirmatively welcoming to gays and lesbians. Those churches which wish to remain in the Leviticus mind-set should have the freedom to do that so long as what they do doesn't amount to child abuse.
Its interesting that some churches are so interested in changing homosexuals while statistically their congregations have far more spousal and child abusers and adulterers. But that's what freedom is all about.
antonio

Amen, Antonio! Well stated!

Peace & Love,
The Ephesians Warrior

Since we have separation of church and state, then we are not subject to state authority to accept their teachings, Let our lawyers deliver the message to them.
God does tell us not to obey evil rules.