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Old 03-16-2009, 07:52 PM
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As I understand the RCC, they teach that sex is only for the purpose of procreation. Since a mass of studies seem to show that world wide, sex is engaged in for pleasure 99% of the time. Further, somewhere in excess of 90% of sexual activity, is performed by conduct, methods or tools, with the conscious desire/expectation that procreation will not result.

What should be the Christian perspective on sexual activity only for pleasure??
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:29 PM
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Sex for pleasure is fine providing its between a man and woman who are both in their first marriage to each other.Under any other conditions it becomes fornication or adultery.Here is Jesus' teaching,repeated several times in the Bible ,that the majority of churches today flatly refuse to accept:

Mark 10:11-12 (King James Version)

11And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
12And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
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Old 03-16-2009, 11:05 PM
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Dear Doc--your post is interesting and I totally agree with it's import, but It doesn't deal with the issue of what is the purpose of sex and lets keep it within the marriage that you describe? You can't imagine the crazy things people do and then have to come into an ER because they self medicated or devised some injurious method to avoid violating their personal moral code.
1. If the purpose includes pleasure, then is there any prohibition to what the couple does to achieve pleasure?( a yes or no is satisfactory)
2. Would using contraceptives etc be approved?
3. Would the "morning after pill""morning-after pill"— drugs that act both to prevent ovulation or fertilization and possibly post-fertilization implantation of a blastocyst (embryo), be ok?
4 would methods such as sitting in hot water or squatting over a hotplate be ok?
5. If fear of pregnancy was interfering with pleasure, which would take precedence?

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Old 03-17-2009, 09:41 PM
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Dear Doc--your post is interesting and I totally agree with it's import, but It doesn't deal with the issue of what is the purpose of sex and lets keep it within the marriage that you describe? You can't imagine the crazy things people do and then have to come into an ER because they self medicated or devised some injurious method to avoid violating their personal moral code.
1. If the purpose includes pleasure, then is there any prohibition to what the couple does to achieve pleasure?( a yes or no is satisfactory)
2. Would using contraceptives etc be approved?
3. Would the "morning after pill""morning-after pill"— drugs that act both to prevent ovulation or fertilization and possibly post-fertilization implantation of a blastocyst (embryo), be ok?
4 would methods such as sitting in hot water or squatting over a hotplate be ok?
5. If fear of pregnancy was interfering with pleasure, which would take precedence?
Antonio, you so want to have someone put the blessing of God on your sin but even if someone does, you will not rest in your heart. Either you are really bored to be on here all the time or you are a true seeker. If you are the latter, from personal experience, may I say you can run from God but you cannot hide. He will make you miserable in order to love you and have you in His kingdom. If He has put a hook in your heart to follow Him, count the cost and PAY IT. It will be the best bargain you could ever imagine, and the side bonus? The thing you now hold dear will be as filthy rags in comparison to what you will get back in joy and heart peace.
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Old 03-17-2009, 11:41 PM
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Dear Bruce---It would be wonderful if you destroyed my points in the post by sound discussion instead of personal judgment.
HERE IS ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ANSWER:
What "sin" are you referring to?
And would you quote one of my statements that acknowledges such sin?


I am taking a moment right now to pray that that you find peace and contentment with God.
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:34 PM
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As I understand the RCC, they teach that sex is only for the purpose of procreation. Since a mass of studies seem to show that world wide, sex is engaged in for pleasure 99% of the time. Further, somewhere in excess of 90% of sexual activity, is performed by conduct, methods or tools, with the conscious desire/expectation that procreation will not result.

What should be the Christian perspective on sexual activity only for pleasure??
If I may add in my two cents..

I would suggest that any person's (Christian or not) perspective on sex should be no different than any person's perspective on a candy cane (You can either lick it or chew it or both).

If your purpose of having sex is only for pleasure. That's perfectly fine.
If it's only for having kids (Boring), then that's perfectly fine as well.
If it's for both, then good for you.

I believe we can decide anything we want regarding sex. So there

And Antonio, where is that other thread I told you I would get back to? It had to do with sex outside of marriage..
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:48 PM
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Dear Mikroman--
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I believe we can decide anything we want regarding sex. So there
Well, you're no fun. I agree as long as it is within loving your fellow human. But I am trying to bring my personal philosophy within an intelligent perspective of the Bible.So far so good. I'm not sure what I will do if I hit a wall. You should try it. I notice that when I post, I get a lot of personal attacks but very few actually discuss or challenge what I say. I would really like to see you attempt to bring your views within the bible. It's much more of a mental challenge than simply posting your personal views and for me, would be much more interesting reading.

I can't recall the other thread. You might try my "green dot" or the "devil' thread or ..I'll mail you if I see it.
I'm using color because I have a couple of days off.

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Old 03-19-2009, 06:01 PM
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Dear Mikroman--
Well, you're no fun. I agree as long as it is within loving your fellow human. But I am trying to bring my personal philosophy within an intelligent perspective of the Bible.So far so good. I'm not sure what I will do if I hit a wall. You should try it. I notice that when I post, I get a lot of personal attacks but very few actually discuss or challenge what I say. I would really like to see you attempt to bring your views within the bible. It's much more of a mental challenge than simply posting your personal views and for me, would be much more interesting reading.

I can't recall the other thread. You might try my "green dot" or the "devil' thread or ..I'll mail you if I see it.
I'm using color because I have a couple of days off.
Sure thing. Just take my first post as a preface. I'll post my views and how they align with the Bible when I get the chance.

By the way, I have watched your posts from time to time, and just want to let you know that I appreciate your style.

Question.. Would you rather get bored of me agreeing with you, or receive personal attacks?
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:18 AM
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As I understand the RCC, they teach that sex is only for the purpose of procreation.
Not so.

The Creator himself . . . established that in the [generative] function, spouses should experience pleasure and enjoyment of body and spirit. Therefore, the spouses do nothing evil in seeking this pleasure and enjoyment. They accept what the Creator has intended for them. (Pope PiusXII, Discourse, 29 October 1951)
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:29 AM
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Antonio... what does the bible say? Always consult there first, pray about it... then come ask questions like these in the forums...
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