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Old 12-10-2013, 10:33 AM
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I try to understand a situation the way people saw it then and not with hindsight. I don't think Mother Mary was thinking of the crucifixion when Jesus was born.
Mary is not God Who is revealing Himself though. Why say this?
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Old 12-10-2013, 01:22 PM
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Jesus ended how He began ... In Mary's arms.

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Mary is not God Who is revealing Himself though. Why say this?
Because I don't think Mary was planning Jesus' burial the day he was born. While there may be connections, I think we can separate things in our minds, considering things one by one, as they occur through time.
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I try to understand a situation the way people saw it then and not with hindsight. I don't think Mother Mary was thinking of the crucifixion when Jesus was born.
I may have missed something but did someone say that she was? I think thusfar it is about God's eternal plan.
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Because I don't think Mary was planning Jesus' burial the day he was born. While there may be connections, I think we can separate things in our minds, considering things one by one, as they occur through time.
But the topic was God's plan in which all things are simultaneously present, and yet revealed in time, not what Mary was aware of. In Orthodox iconography, for example, both realities are revealed in the same icon.
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I may have missed something but did someone say that she was? I think thusfar it is about God's eternal plan.
It was said that "you can't separate Christmas from Good Friday." I don't think they were connected in Mary's mind.
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But the topic was God's plan in which all things are simultaneously present, and yet revealed in time, not what Mary was aware of. In Orthodox iconography, for example, both realities are revealed in the same icon.
That may be true, but my mind does not grasp all things from all times simultaneously. I can connect his birth to the crucifixion only using hind sight, after the fact.
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Old 12-11-2013, 04:32 AM
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While it's true that Jesus was born in order to atone for all mankind, of which His death and resurrection were a necessary part, it's fairly easy to separate His birth from his death.
You could insert the 33ish years of His life for example.

The two are distinct and separate things.
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... And Good Friday from Passover Sunday!

"So Pilate said to him, "Then you are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say I am a king. For this I was BORN and for this I came into the world, to testify to the Truth. ... " (St. John 18:37)

What is the Truth? ... Jesus, and Him Crucified. Remember, that Jesus reigns from a Cross!

"For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and Him Crucified." (1 Cor. 2:2)

" 2. The centrality of the reign of God in Montfort spirituality

Although Saint Louis de Montfort has no special work, or even a section
of his writings, specifically devoted to the reign of God, nonetheless
this theme encapsulates the saint’s life and teachings. Saint Louis
Marie was consumed with the burning desire "to destroy sin and establish
the reign of Jesus Christ over that of the corrupt world" (SM 59). He
was, like Jesus, the Missionary of the Father, above all the herald of
the Kingdom of God.

Montfort’s life and writings bear out this truth. Seventeen of his
thirty-four letters or fragments of letters have the greeting "May the
pure love of God reign in our hearts" (cf. L 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, etc.).
The salutation in his later letters, "May Jesus Christ and his Cross
reign forever! (Vive Jésus, Vive sa Croix)" (cf. L 26, 27, 29, 30,
etc.), not only calls for the reign of Jesus but makes it known that
Jesus reigns from the Cross (cf. FC). "

Source: Reign

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