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Old 12-24-2010, 03:30 PM
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The following article is interesting in that it challenges the notion that the Christmas tree is of pagan origin:

In Defense Of The Christmas Tree | OrthodoxNet.com Blog
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The following article is interesting in that it challenges the notion that the Christmas tree is of pagan origin:

In Defense Of The Christmas Tree | OrthodoxNet.com Blog
Odd they chose it to be the tree of knowledge rather than the tree of life.
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Old 12-24-2010, 05:40 PM
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Odd they chose it to be the tree of knowledge rather than the tree of life.
It is strange. It says "the paradise tree or the tree of knowledge." The "paradise tree" would seem to indicate the tree of life--so which is it? Too much info left out of the article, but I think does at least sufficiently offer evidence to debunk the old "pagan origins" stuff.
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Old 12-25-2010, 05:19 PM
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Exclamation Christmas Trees Are Used For Evil

It was and still is in some parts of the world such as Central and South America, very common for some churches to bring pagan practices and even decor into their churches in order to make it more welcoming for non-Christians in an effort to increase their membership.Just how many ways can you think of to anger God?

The Wicca religion is the most rapidly growing pagan religion in the United States,so much so that the United States armed forces recognize it as one of their approved forms of organized worship.And what is it all about?Well let the top of their official website educate you:


Wicca Places of Worship

Where are the Wicca places of worship? Everywhere! Since the Earth is sacred, any place is a place of worship for Wiccans. We make our temples, wherever we go .

Why Don't WITCHES Have Temples?

For one thing, we don't feel the need for a place that is set aside from daily life. To many Wiccans, that wouldn't seem right, since Wicca is firmly rooted in the Earth.


Creating Places Of Worship

The place of worship isn't as rigid in Wicca as in some religions. Wherever we worship is a sacred place.

That's the function of casting a circle, calling the directions, inviting the GODS and GODDESSES. We are then creating sacred space.

Customary Places Of Worship

Still, there are Wicca places of worship we tend to regularly enjoy. . .

* Open fields under the full moon.

* In a quiet grove.

* Around a GREAT TREE.

GETTING IN THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT YET?

Have you heard Jesus' famous quote,"By their fruits ye shall know them" ? Oh good then you'll see the spiritual significance of this:

U.S. Fire Administration
TOPICAL FIRE RESEARCH SERIES
Volume 1, Issue 4

Christmas/Christmas Tree Fires

FINDINGS:

From December 24th through the 26th, fire deaths, injuries, and dollar loss increase an average of 50%, 61%, and 43%, respectively.

Using the latest 3 years of data, the yearly estimated fire loss for just three days,December 24, 25, and 26 is estimated at over $80 million. Each year, these losses result from an estimated 11,600 fires that required a fire department response. These fires cause an annual average of approximately 250 injuries and 40 FATALITIES.

Ok so how about a Christian alternative to the dangerous pagan tree worship that Wiccan witches engage in to carry out their belief.( See "Why Don't WITCHES Have Temples" above)

It has been suggested above that Christians erect fire-proof trees of knowledge in their church.Ok but lets set some rules here :

1.No more secular sacrilegious or in the case of Satan Claus,blasphemous decorations.
2.No more gaudy attempts to make a sacred tree look
"merry" or "festive".
3.Absolutely no materialistic junk gifts, put at its base to worship it.
4.Instead a life-size artistic but sacred reproduction of the tree that taught our original parents about both good and evil can be permanently displayed in the church lobby.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:02 PM
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It was and still is in some parts of the world such as Central and South America, very common for some churches to bring pagan practices and even decor into their churches in order to make it more welcoming for non-Christians in an effort to increase their membership.Just how many ways can you think of to anger God?

The Wicca religion is the most rapidly growing pagan religion in the United States,so much so that the United States armed forces recognize it as one of their approved forms of organized worship.And what is it all about?Well let the top of their official website educate you:


Wicca Places of Worship

Where are the Wicca places of worship? Everywhere! Since the Earth is sacred, any place is a place of worship for Wiccans. We make our temples, wherever we go .

Why Don't WITCHES Have Temples?

For one thing, we don't feel the need for a place that is set aside from daily life. To many Wiccans, that wouldn't seem right, since Wicca is firmly rooted in the Earth.


Creating Places Of Worship

The place of worship isn't as rigid in Wicca as in some religions. Wherever we worship is a sacred place.

That's the function of casting a circle, calling the directions, inviting the GODS and GODDESSES. We are then creating sacred space.

Customary Places Of Worship

Still, there are Wicca places of worship we tend to regularly enjoy. . .

* Open fields under the full moon.

* In a quiet grove.

* Around a GREAT TREE.

GETTING IN THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT YET?

Have you heard Jesus' famous quote,"By their fruits ye shall know them" ? Oh good then you'll see the spiritual significance of this:

U.S. Fire Administration
TOPICAL FIRE RESEARCH SERIES
Volume 1, Issue 4

Christmas/Christmas Tree Fires

FINDINGS:

From December 24th through the 26th, fire deaths, injuries, and dollar loss increase an average of 50%, 61%, and 43%, respectively.

Using the latest 3 years of data, the yearly estimated fire loss for just three days,December 24, 25, and 26 is estimated at over $80 million. Each year, these losses result from an estimated 11,600 fires that required a fire department response. These fires cause an annual average of approximately 250 injuries and 40 FATALITIES.

Ok so how about a Christian alternative to the dangerous pagan tree worship that Wiccan witches engage in to carry out their belief.( See "Why Don't WITCHES Have Temples" above)

It has been suggested above that Christians erect fire-proof trees of knowledge in their church.Ok but lets set some rules here :

1.No more secular sacrilegious or in the case of Satan Claus,blasphemous decorations.
2.No more gaudy attempts to make a sacred tree look
"merry" or "festive".
3.Absolutely no materialistic junk gifts, put at its base to worship it.
4.Instead a life-size artistic but sacred reproduction of the tree that taught our original parents about both good and evil can be permanently displayed in the church lobby.

Oh good grief, no Christmas trees are not used for evil and these decorations are not sacrilegious or blasphemous.

Why shouldnít we make the tree look merry or festive? God sent his son here to be among us, and if that isnít reason to be merry or festive I donít know what is.

The gifts are symbolic of the gift Christ gave us. The problem isnít the gifts; itís when we forget the symbolism that they are supposed to have.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:26 AM
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Oh good grief, no Christmas trees are not used for evil and these decorations are not sacrilegious or blasphemous.

Why shouldn’t we make the tree look merry or festive? God sent his son here to be among us, and if that isn’t reason to be merry or festive I don’t know what is.

The gifts are symbolic of the gift Christ gave us. The problem isn’t the gifts; it’s when we forget the symbolism that they are supposed to have.
Yes, and moreover, TREES ARE CREATED BY GOD. This nonsense that a tree represents paganism is insulting to God, as it is de facto a source of basic oxygen for human beings given as a gift by God to man. The tree which is a symbol of God's gift of life to man can certainly concelebrate with Christians in the ultimate Gift of Life given to all mankind at the Nativity.
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That's the function of casting a circle, calling the directions, inviting the GODS and GODDESSES. We are then creating sacred space.
So we should put our Christmas trees in the middle of the room so we can magic circles around them? Would that be practical? Would part of a circle do if we put the trees in a corner?

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Customary Places Of Worship

Still, there are Wicca places of worship we tend to regularly enjoy. . .

* Open fields under the full moon.

* In a quiet grove.

* Around a GREAT TREE.

GETTING IN THE CHRISTMAS SPIRIT YET?
It's too cold for me to go outside in December to worship around a tree, no how great it may be. If that's what it takes to get "in the Christmas spirit," call me Scrooge.
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The following article is interesting in that it challenges the notion that the Christmas tree is of pagan origin:

In Defense Of The Christmas Tree | OrthodoxNet.com Blog
A great article to remember this year
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A great article to remember this year
Nice! These days that lead up to the holiday seem to be lacking in lightheartedness and the beautiful ambiance to finally embrace that day! Ours, will most likely always be below average in size without going too far to insult our own sub-conscience.
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