IF you read the following testimonies,
seeACTS 3,12-26 of Peter
ACTS 7 of Stephen
and ACTS 9,20 that of PAUL
I can only wonder how you are not won over to the TRUTH, the
Gospel of GOD regarding HIS beloved Son Jesus.
The short answer?
If you aren't won over by there testimonies, you shan't be.
It's that simple, for just as GOD vexed pharaoh and perplexed Israel's
educated elite, so's they didn't come to believe the words of HIS
only BEGOTTEN SON JESUS.
So too does GOD unto every generation since,
lest of course they come to realize the error of their ways and repent.
see Isaiah 6, 9+10
NOW why in the name of Jesus, would GOD do such a contrary thing?
Consider why GOD hardened pharaohs heart, and why GOD hardened
the UNBELIEF in ISRAEL that they might join themselves to idols,
angel worship, and the worship of natural and heavenly things-
like the SUN, MOON and STARS?

Why would GOD do something that seems to backwards?

FREE CHOICE.
WE are elect, but we all have the FREEDOM of CHOICE to COMMIT
to our calling or to fall to our baser nature.
EVERYON has free choice until they reject that free gift for their
own predelictory wants.
EVER recieved a birthday or christmas gift you thought stunk?

WHY DID JESUS COME TO ISRAEL, and not the world- ROME or CHINA
of that time, though later someone did write JOHN 3,16 after the
fact, when ISRAEL had already rejected HIM and Him.
DIDn't Jesus confess that He came only for the childrens need?
So WHO ARE THOSE CHILDREN? WHOSE CHILDREN ARE THEY?

CAN you be won over, if say GOD says NO WAY?
LOOK it was touch and go for PETE, though I am sure that Jesus
prayed for each of the dozen, but Judas was a hard nut to crack,
and Thomas, well he was of the Gideon ilk, needing so to see
proof, while a Nathaniel who was never chosen to the inner locus
had more faith than most.
WE all rate somewhere in this scale, from reprobate to unbeliever
back to wannabie greats to wanna be like Jesus.
And we all seek proof, to see if what is taught is really truly real.
Don't say you don't, maybe you just quit looking, as your rubber
neck muscles spasmed up.

WE all recruit for our various standards, and yet not a single one
of us can shoe in anyone past GOD if GOD doesn't want it to happen.
NOBODY COMES UNTO ME. is Jesus quoted, JOHN 6,44
UNLESS WHAT? UNLESS GOD MAKES IT SO, it's HIS CALL ALONE
as it was for the Zebedees who sought special favor of Jesus
and when the disciples sought when the END DAY COMES.
ONLY GOD DOES and what promised Jesus would then happen?
I WILL NOT TURN AWAY FROM YOU, see JOHN 6,37
Imagine a stray, you pick the pet, and it is entrusted to your care.
THAT's JESUS ROLE. Cane we slip away as strays often do?
You BET.
So beware of them who swear OSAS, ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED,
for we can mess ourselves up so bad, that we don't ever look back
unto HIM who brought us in.
WHAT's our ROLE?
How many of you are old enough to remember what the
LIGHTHOUSES WERE FOR? They are still for that purpose today
though now they have no ORGANIC BEING in attendance, as they
are now mostly AUTONOMOUS, AUTOMATED.
THEY were set to mark the DANGER and if they failed in that primary
role there was still someplace or someone who could help.

And JESUS said, that He would be faithful in this promise, but ONLY
to the FAITHFUL. on that glorious and horrible LAST DAY, when the
worthy will see the face of GOD and the unworthy will flee to the
utter darkness, JOHN 14,6
EVEN JESUS will that DAY KNEEL before GOD 1 COR.15,23-28

CAN YOU BE WON OVER by the THREE TENORS whose voice still
resounds across time, if you can't accept what Jesus says
or has the lie of men won you over instead?
PAX

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by PASHA

IF you read the following testimonies,
seeACTS 3,12-26 of Peter
ACTS 7 of Stephen
and ACTS 9,20 that of PAUL
I can only wonder how you are not won over to the TRUTH, the
Gospel of GOD regarding HIS beloved Son Jesus.
The short answer?
If you aren't won over by there testimonies, you shan't be.
It's that simple, for just as GOD vexed pharaoh and perplexed Israel's
educated elite, so's they didn't come to believe the words of HIS
only BEGOTTEN SON JESUS.
So too does GOD unto every generation since,
lest of course they come to realize the error of their ways and repent.
see Isaiah 6, 9+10
NOW why in the name of Jesus, would GOD do such a contrary thing?
Consider why GOD hardened pharaohs heart, and why GOD hardened
the UNBELIEF in ISRAEL that they might join themselves to idols,
angel worship, and the worship of natural and heavenly things-
like the SUN, MOON and STARS?

Why would GOD do something that seems to backwards?

FREE CHOICE.
WE are elect, but we all have the FREEDOM of CHOICE to COMMIT
to our calling or to fall to our baser nature.
EVERYON has free choice until they reject that free gift for their
own predelictory wants.
EVER recieved a birthday or christmas gift you thought stunk?

WHY DID JESUS COME TO ISRAEL, and not the world- ROME or CHINA
of that time, though later someone did write JOHN 3,16 after the
fact, when ISRAEL had already rejected HIM and Him.
DIDn't Jesus confess that He came only for the childrens need?
So WHO ARE THOSE CHILDREN? WHOSE CHILDREN ARE THEY?

CAN you be won over, if say GOD says NO WAY?
LOOK it was touch and go for PETE, though I am sure that Jesus
prayed for each of the dozen, but Judas was a hard nut to crack,
and Thomas, well he was of the Gideon ilk, needing so to see
proof, while a Nathaniel who was never chosen to the inner locus
had more faith than most.
WE all rate somewhere in this scale, from reprobate to unbeliever
back to wannabie greats to wanna be like Jesus.
And we all seek proof, to see if what is taught is really truly real.
Don't say you don't, maybe you just quit looking, as your rubber
neck muscles spasmed up.

WE all recruit for our various standards, and yet not a single one
of us can shoe in anyone past GOD if GOD doesn't want it to happen.
NOBODY COMES UNTO ME. is Jesus quoted, JOHN 6,44
UNLESS WHAT? UNLESS GOD MAKES IT SO, it's HIS CALL ALONE
as it was for the Zebedees who sought special favor of Jesus
and when the disciples sought when the END DAY COMES.
ONLY GOD DOES and what promised Jesus would then happen?
I WILL NOT TURN AWAY FROM YOU, see JOHN 6,37
Imagine a stray, you pick the pet, and it is entrusted to your care.
THAT's JESUS ROLE. Cane we slip away as strays often do?
You BET.
So beware of them who swear OSAS, ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED,
for we can mess ourselves up so bad, that we don't ever look back
unto HIM who brought us in.
WHAT's our ROLE?
How many of you are old enough to remember what the
LIGHTHOUSES WERE FOR? They are still for that purpose today
though now they have no ORGANIC BEING in attendance, as they
are now mostly AUTONOMOUS, AUTOMATED.
THEY were set to mark the DANGER and if they failed in that primary
role there was still someplace or someone who could help.

And JESUS said, that He would be faithful in this promise, but ONLY
to the FAITHFUL. on that glorious and horrible LAST DAY, when the
worthy will see the face of GOD and the unworthy will flee to the
utter darkness, JOHN 14,6
EVEN JESUS will that DAY KNEEL before GOD 1 COR.15,23-28

CAN YOU BE WON OVER by the THREE TENORS whose voice still
resounds across time, if you can't accept what Jesus says
or has the lie of men won you over instead?
PAX

Instead of heareth the Lord via PASHA too many have already decided that you cannot be a messenger from God. You are not read because someone thinks that they know you. They do not recognize when God is working through and in you:

"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9

Many who do not recognize His voice will look at the messenger and say who are you, instead of listening to and considering the message.

YES NAZARETH all over again.
TAKE HEART AMADEUS, they weren't meant to see, just
as the children of ISRAEL weren't meant, for as GOD
told Jesus which John heard and recorded,
THEY WERE NOT CALLED BY GOD and at the END they shall
also be DENIED before GOD by Jesus.

I doubt that many truly understand the verse from MATT.7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord,
shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
DID JESUS STUTTER with LORD LORD?

I PLANT, I don't make it grow, only GOD can do that, and if GOD is
willing and there are those who are truly seeking, then what's posted
and POSTULATED shall make sense.
If I did all this for my own glory and story I could feel hurt, but
I labor as did my ELDEST TRUEST BROTHER with His LIFE, and still even
in my age there are those who DO and DID believe the TESTIMONY of
GOD regarding HIS beloved Son Jesus, no matter what the blind claimed
is better than that.
JESUS didn't quote Isaiah 6,
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy,
and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes,
and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart,
and convert, and be healed.

EVERYONE HATES TO ADMIT THAT THEY WERE WRONG most times
and even more so those who have wronged many and now find themselves
in the same shoes as those whom Jesus often tried to restore to a clear
view from their GLAUCOMA or CATARACTIC sight.
I know and with patience, the TRUTH will PREVAIL so says the summation
of the BOOK to the true PEOPLE of the BOOK.
PAX
ps
AS LONG AS I HAVE BREATH I SHALL CONTINUE TO PLANT A TREE.
but most will see me only as planting doubt.
AMEN, better they see at sometime than never at all.

[Amadeus]

I PLANT, I don't make it grow, only GOD can do that, and if GOD is
willing and there are those who are truly seeking, then what's posted
and POSTULATED shall make sense.

That is all you can do! Many people listened to Jesus, but heard very little or nothing of what He said!

[WilliamtheConqueror]

When I saw the thread title I was hoping that you had been won over to the biblical Trinity (TriUnity) Pasha, but now my hopes have been dashed. I still maintain that you are not a pasha, Pasha.

WHAT A PURIAL THING TO POST BILLY.
WHY WOULD I WANT TO GO BACK TO PLAYING HACKYSACK with
the rest of the UNCALLED?

matt 12
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil,
speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.

35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth
forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure
bringeth forth evil things.

matt 15
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth,
and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines AND
the commandments of men.

MATT 11
16 But whereunto shall I liken this generation?
It is like unto children sitting in the markets, and calling unto their fellows,

17 And saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced;
we have moaned and groaned to you, and ye have not lamented.