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Old 06-12-2009, 01:48 PM
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"True Unity Among the World Wide Community of Faith"

This is the headline seen here on True2ourselves.

My question is how can there possibly ever be true unity among the worldwide community of faith when every different denomination believes their doctrine is the one and only absolutely 100% Biblically correct doctrine, and every denominations doctrine is different from every other denominations doctrine?

How can there ever possibly BE true unity among the world wide community when ONE denomination claims to be the ONE and ONLY true church thereby excluding all other believers from right of relationship with Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior?

I wonder which section of heaven is being specifically and exclusivelly reserved for which denominational group?

Baptists here, Catholics right up front (Much Much closer to Jesus and the queen of heaven Mary).

Methodists here, Presbytarians there, and somewhere far off in a secluded not often visited slummy part on the edge of heaven.... Pentecostals

And of course all us non denominationalists even farther back in an even worse part of heaven.....

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Old 06-12-2009, 02:58 PM
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I will share a word the Lord gave to me, it is the reason why I was looking for a place where the need for unity was at least acknowledged. You can take it for what it is worth to you.

Paraphrased " In every place I have two or three. Men and woman who are ready now to receive one another without judging and without binding one another. If I were to sound my trumpet today they would all stand up and I would have a mighty army".

I would take it that not all of any body is going to accept one another but there are those "who have eyes to see".
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:52 PM
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I can tell you one false assumption which you include in your original point which might help - most dogmatic theologies (which is what separates most denomination) are man designed systems of thinking put there to divide and most denominations they belong to don't even think they are 100% Biblical which is why many have turned the Scripture into something which can be set aside if they don't agree with it. Some set it aside in order to place their own creeds etc. either equal to Scripture or in some cases more reliable than the Scripture. Others toss the Bible out in another way - by a Spirit Guide - if their view is not supported by or explained in Scripture then the Holy Spirit has given them a special message which either explains Scripture to suit their view or which is superior to Scripture. Now if someone is guided by the Holy Spirit in understanding during their study of Scripture that is a totally different thing - that is what we are suppose to do - prayer and study with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

The good news is that anyone from any denomination can Study with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Now about this unity thing - you are right in so many ways. There can be no unity with all the different views among the different groups - however Salvation should be one thing we as individuals can agree on and build relationships from there with individuals.

The physical church is not the same thing as the spiritual church - the physical church will never have unity, I think that is evident from Scripture. Our duty is to make sure when an issue comes up that we can present a Scriptural explanation or that we can take Scripture and show why something is not Scriptural to an individual who is searching.

The problem is that Scripture is Truth and Truth cannot be compromised to include for the sake of "unity" diametrically opposed views. This in the end will be the "one world church" view which then will fall for the spirit of the anti-Christ. So in that sense those who know the Truth do not want unity - they strive for truth above unity, knowing that Jesus Christ is the only Way and the only Truth - this cannot be compromised.

Interesting note - at the time when Jesus walked on the earth, Judaism was divided into different groups with all sort of different understanding (again like us, many based in rabbinical writings or tradition which couldn't be supported in the OT Scriptures.) Jesus didn't call for unity He called people to come out from those groups to Truth, to Him. Unity was not possible and He understood that. He said His people were dying because of lack of knowledge. From the Jewish point of view this is what lead to His death - truth was there and Judaism preferred their man created creeds etc. The physical church is in much the same condition today as Judaism was in at the time of Christ's first coming. He didn't come then to bring unity, but to bring Salvation (which caused more issues for individuals who had been taught in their "denominations" that the Messiah would come to unite them and to save them from Rome (not their own sins). This only leads one to see that the 2nd coming is near where the trumpet will sound and Christians will be call out from among not only the world but out from among the corruption of the denominations to be finally in rest, united into the real church - the Body of Christ.

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Old 06-12-2009, 04:03 PM
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After much prayer I have determined that it is in mine and my wifes VERY best interest to totally separate ourselves from any and all man organized denominational church fellowship.

The ONE and ONLY way there will ever be true unity among ALL Christian believers is when ALL denominations are done away with completely and ALL believers truly come together as ONE together in Christ, and with Christ.
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I'm sure you all know what I think already.

Therefore I shall just say, "Present and accounted for."
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I'm sure you all know what I think already.

Therefore I shall just say, "Present and accounted for."
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, CC everyone knows you 'THINK' the Catholic church is the one and only true church.

Problem is there's NO actual Biblical proof that it is but then scripture has no purpose in determining IF the catholic church really IS the one and only true church does it?
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:38 PM
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I'm sure you all know what I think already.

Therefore I shall just say, "Present and accounted for."
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, CC everyone knows you 'THINK' the Catholic church is the one and only true church.

Problem is there's NO actual Biblical proof that it is but then scripture has no purpose in determining IF the catholic church really IS the one and only true church does it?
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Here, knock yourself out: CLICK HERE
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:16 PM
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"True Unity Among the World Wide Community of Faith"


This is the headline seen here on True2ourselves.

My question is how can there possibly ever be true unity among the worldwide community of faith when every different denomination believes their doctrine is the one and only absolutely 100% Biblically correct doctrine, and every denominations doctrine is different from every other denominations doctrine?

How can there ever possibly BE true unity among the world wide community when ONE denomination claims to be the ONE and ONLY true church thereby excluding all other believers from right of relationship with Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior?

I wonder which section of heaven is being specifically and exclusivelly reserved for which denominational group?

Baptists here, Catholics right up front (Much Much closer to Jesus and the queen of heaven Mary).

Methodists here, Presbytarians there, and somewhere far off in a secluded not often visited slummy part on the edge of heaven.... Pentecostals

And of course all us non denominationalists even farther back in an even worse part of heaven.....
for what reason would you want unity in the Community of faith?

If we all believe in Jesus as the son of God and the only way for salvation, is that not good enough?

live the best we can,[live holy, me being from the church of God] is there more to making Heaven our home?

Now about this unity thing - you are right in so many ways. There can be no unity with all the different views among the different groups - however Salvation should be one thing we as individuals can agree on and build relationships from there with individuals

now Windsong said it all to me, no unity, with all the different churches around,
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