[Windsong]

I realize that this forum has many different denomination represented (actually it seems different religions as well in some areas) but it talks about being a community of Christians in unity. I assume this would indicate a unity of belief in Christ - ergo the term Christian. To this end I have a few questions: Why does man need salvation? From what is he saved? And what does Jesus have to do with any of it? Can man get to God by another path?

Thanks - am deciding if this forum is for me.

In Christ
Windy

[Soulheart3]

Welcome to the site, only those who post can give you information about themselves. If you are here to find a site that agree's perfectly with your faith, it may not be for you, and I think if you wish to have these questions answered by those here, you should share a bit about yourself along the same line of questions you post.

Why does man need salvation?
Because we were designed by God to be in fellowship with Himself, but sin keeps us seperated from the fellowship He wants and that we are designed to be a part of.

From what is he saved?
Death (spiritual)

And what does Jesus have to do with any of it?
He was the Son of God, and his blood sacrifice, despite His perfect sinnless life, on our behalf to clean us from the sin we have built up, covers our sins so that we may have that fellowship with God.

Can man get to God by another path?
Scripture certainly doesnt say so, and I dont know of any other path that I agree with.

Now that I have answered your questions, could you answer them yourself, so that we might know you better, and answer me a couple if you dont mind.

1. Do you believe that the Holy Spirit is to be our Guide in all things?
2. Do you have a mole on your left cheek?
3. Do you have a puppy named Bilbo?
4. Do you have bumps on your head? (I do)
5. Do you like peanut butter?

Okay, those are all the things important to me, if you can answer me these, I will treat you like a brother (just kidding-I will regardless-if you stay).

-Brad

[Windsong]

Originally Posted by Soulheart3

Welcome to the site, only those who post can give you information about themselves. If you are here to find a site that agree's perfectly with your faith, it may not be for you, and I think if you wish to have these questions answered by those here, you should share a bit about yourself along the same line of questions you post.

Why does man need salvation?
Because we were designed by God to be in fellowship with Himself, but sin keeps us seperated from the fellowship He wants and that we are designed to be a part of.

From what is he saved?
Death (spiritual)

And what does Jesus have to do with any of it?
He was the Son of God, and his blood sacrifice, despite His perfect sinnless life, on our behalf to clean us from the sin we have built up, covers our sins so that we may have that fellowship with God.

Can man get to God by another path?
Scripture certainly doesnt say so, and I dont know of any other path that I agree with.

Now that I have answered your questions, could you answer them yourself, so that we might know you better, and answer me a couple if you dont mind.

1. Do you believe that the Holy Spirit is to be our Guide in all things?
2. Do you have a mole on your left cheek?
3. Do you have a puppy named Bilbo?
4. Do you have bumps on your head? (I do)
5. Do you like peanut butter?

Okay, those are all the things important to me, if you can answer me these, I will treat you like a brother (just kidding-I will regardless-if you stay).

-Brad

;-)

1. I believe that the Holy Spirit should be our guide in all things, though often He isn't a guide in all areas of our lives (or they wouldn't be so messed up would they). But we must depend on Him in our understanding of what we believe and if we depend on Him He will show us the answers to our questions.

2. no don't have a mole on my left or right cheek.
3. sorry to say we don't currently have a puppy or dog for that fact of any name - and must add that this is the first time in my whole life we haven't - but my dog died after 16 years a couple years ago and haven't had the heart yet to get a new one (and one hasn't come to me yet either).
4. don't know that I have any bumps on my head which I wasn't born with....
5. peanut butter - either creamy or crunchy is fine with me - but will say I do use the kind with extra omega-3 fats in it so it is a bit more healthy.... hehe

As for my questions? You are assuming that I know and am not just asking? Well ok.

I have been a Christian since I was pre-teen. I have skeptically questioned my belief and belief system many times on my path but always come back to the fact that Biblical Christianity is the only thing which makes sense in the big picture.

I believe that man needs salvation because "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God"

I too believe that what Jesus saved us from is the what the Bible calls 2nd death or the "sting or death (or spiritual death - though this term isn't found in the Bible and many miss use this as a term to describe the fall) - which results from dying physically without accepting the gift of God which is salvation and without having the surety of the Holy Spirit within our hearts.

I believe that Jesus (the only begotten Son of God) was crucified so that His blood could take away the sin of the world (including mine) and that in order to be under that blood one must accept Him and what He did knowing that there is/was nothing apart from Him which would/could allow man to be in the presents of God and to have fellowship with God.

I might also add that I believe the Word of God/Scripture is the divinely inspired Word/Special Revelation from God our Creator to man the creature and without the fact that God has spoken to us we would not be able to understand or have fellowship with Him. Scripture gives us the information which man needed to understand.

I think Jesus Christ about said it all when He said He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and that NO man can come to the Father but through Him - if He lied about that the He is not trustworthy on any other point - including salvation.

Hope this answers your questions - even the tongue in cheek ones. Wasn't trying to hide my understanding but want to understand this board and if it is someplace I wish to spend time....

In Christ
Windy

[Soulheart3]

Thank you Windy, a lot of people here like a more personal touch. Thanks for sharing brother.

[christkid777]

We were created by God, through Jesus Christ, to fulfill a certain purpose. We were to be His eternal companion in marriage. There was a high ranking government official, who we now know as the devil, who decided we should help him with his own purpose instead so he conned us into joining him in his pursuit of his own will. We were disobedient to God's instructions and went along. But there was a catch. We had to be married to the devil for his plan to work. So we left the Almighty with a broken heart and went to fornicate with a vastly inferior being. [This is why we need salvation] But God really loved us and wanted us back. So He made a way. An expensive way. He paid a high price and came in person to propose to us again. With a warning. All who rejected this second proposal would suffer the wrath deserved by our first rejection. [This is what we are saved from, God's wrath] Jesus was the messenger of God [the ONLY messenger of God] who came with the second proposal. He said He would give His life blood to pay God for our sin of rejecting God and of fornication with an inferior creation. God said that if He, Jesus, did this thing then He, Jesus, could have the people who accepted Him as His eternal Bride. [This is part of the role of Christ Jesus] There is only one bridegroom and only one hope of salvation from the wrath of God. We must be found in Jesus who covers or nakedness and washes away the filth of our fornication. Anyone found outside Christ will be seen as the rebellious fornicator we chose to be in the Garden and will suffer the wrath of God. God will be as good with destroying as he is with creating. As wonderful as the creation is so the punishment will be terrible. Any other questions?

[NotFinishedYet]

Originally Posted by Windsong

I realize that this forum has many different denomination represented (actually it seems different religions as well in some areas) but it talks about being a community of Christians in unity. I assume this would indicate a unity of belief in Christ - ergo the term Christian. To this end I have a few questions: Why does man need salvation? From what is he saved? And what does Jesus have to do with any of it? Can man get to God by another path?

Thanks - am deciding if this forum is for me.

In Christ
Windy

Hey, Windy, welcome. I'm going to answer your question a bit differently. Actually, I can't answer your underlying question at all: is this forum for you? I think any of us here would tell you that all are welcome: believers and non-believers alike as long as you're polite and respectful of the various beliefs posted. I'd encourage you to hang out, jump in, pray over what's happening here and if it's for you. If you're looking for a site where all predominately share the same views.... well, that's not really this site. What keeps me here is that the folks here work very hard to help us understand our differences and thereby build unity. Sometimes we get a little feisty in our interactions when we hit large areas of disagreement, but on the whole we then just agree to disagree. If you want to learn a lot more about the different faiths or atheism, you will get it here. And hopefully, it will make you stronger in your faith and understanding of others. And we're great at fellowship, caring for each other, and playing. But homogeneous in belief: we are not.

I hope (yes, guys, I said hope) that doesn't scare you away. I'd like you to stay and let me pick your mind about your beliefs. Peggy

Oh, and my mole is on the left check, cats are named Thom and Geri, lotsa bumps on the hard head from hitting it too much, and peanut butter esp. in pie!

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by Windsong

Why does man need salvation?

To avoid being separated from God.

From what is he saved?

Separation from God.

And what does Jesus have to do with any of it?

He is the Way, the Door, the Truth, the Life, the Shepherd, etc.

Can man get to God by another path?

No!

Thanks - am deciding if this forum is for me.

In Christ
Windy

Welcome aboard!

Originally Posted by Windsong

I realize that this forum has many different denomination represented (actually it seems different religions as well in some areas) but it talks about being a community of Christians in unity. I assume this would indicate a unity of belief in Christ - ergo the term Christian. To this end I have a few questions: Why does man need salvation? From what is he saved? And what does Jesus have to do with any of it? Can man get to God by another path?

Thanks - am deciding if this forum is for me.

In Christ
Windy

I do not have a denomination. But i read the bible. I think its clear on salvation

John
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

I believe that Jesus died as the proptiation for our sin. He paid the price that I could not pay myself.
I believe there is only 1 way to God and that is through jesus.

John
14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Now as for the forst question as to why we need salvation.

Romans
5:12 Wherefore , as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

My beliefs would say that no man will see God unless he has accepted jesus as his saviour.

The gift is given to all people but not all will open it sadly.