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Old 07-17-2020, 06:41 PM
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According to the apostle John, the wedding of the Lamb is of Christ to his Bride, the body of Christ, the Church, which is the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:9-10). According to John, only God's people are in the New Jerusalem, the Church. Those outside are the damned (Rev 22:14-15).
We are not talking about the new Jerusalem, we are talking about this earth that we live in now, so you think everyone but those currrently in the body of Christ right now, deserve no compassion from God or us?
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Old 07-18-2020, 11:35 AM
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We are not talking about the new Jerusalem, we are talking about this earth that we live in now,
Well, your exclusion of those attending the "wedding of the lamb" from those not in Christ took me to Revelation, which is the only book where it is mentioned, and where the Bride of the Lamb is the New Jerusalem. I failed to realize you were speaking of the Church on earth.

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so you think everyone but those currrently in the body of Christ right now, deserve no compassion from God or us?
No, not at all.

But not all God's people have yet come in right now, so we are to preach the gospel to all men, calling them to believe in Jesus' atoning work for their sin and to become his obedient disciples. However, until they come to faith, they are God's enemies (Ro 11:28, 5:10, 8:7;
Col 1:21), who are being offered reconciliation to God through faith in Jesus Christ. If they die without accepting God's offer of reconciliation, they remain God's enemies in eternal damnation (Jn 3:18, 36).

So, yes, we are to show compassion to all. However, the most important compassion we can show to anyone is urging them to accept God's pardon of their sin, through faith in Jesus Christ.

But the Biblical fact remains, all those outside Jesus Christ are not God's people, and that includes unbelieving Jews, until, like all other unbelievers, they come to faith in Jesus Christ.

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Old 07-20-2020, 07:28 AM
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It isnít our place to judge non-Christians to Hell because they donít believe in Jesus Christ. God is the only one who will judge them. Although it isnít our place to condemn non-Christians, itís our duty to evangelize and spread the Good News to non-Christians. Whether they receive the Good News is up to them, but it isnít our place to condemn them.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. ďExpel the wicked person from among you.
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:36 AM
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It isnít our place to judge non-Christians to Hell because they donít believe in Jesus Christ. God is the only one who will judge them. Although it isnít our place to condemn non-Christians, itís our duty to evangelize and spread the Good News to non-Christians. Whether they receive the Good News is up to them, but it isnít our place to condemn them.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. ďExpel the wicked person from among you.
Yes, we don't judge (expel, excommunicate) for sin those not of the Christian community, we judge and expel for public sin (1Co 5:1-2) only those of the Christian community, for the sake of its purity.

But we do preach the gospel of Jesus, which is both bad news and good news:
""For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." (Jn 3:16, 18).
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:29 PM
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Yes, we don't judge (expel, excommunicate) for sin those not of the Christian community, we judge and expel for public sin (1Co 5:1-2) only those of the Christian community, for the sake of its purity.

But we do preach the gospel of Jesus, which is both bad news and good news:
""For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. . .Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe in him is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." (Jn 3:16, 18).
There is no bad news in the Good News. The Good News is that God loved us so much that He gave His own life on the cross to bring us salvation and through His resurrection He conquered death so that we may have eternal life in Heaven. His resurrection from death is the Good News that the Apostles brought to the unbelieving Gentiles. We preach of God's love and mercy to non-Christians whenever we evangelize. We don't preach about Hell to them because it isn't our place to judge them.

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