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Old 04-03-2020, 05:52 AM
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Just how boundless is God’s ability to address illness? In ancient times when Jesus and the Apostles walked, Leprosy posed a public threat, meaning, a contagious disease.

God’s people did not think it an unclean practice to shrink from compassion, but fixed themselves to not only attend to the sick, but express one another’s sensitivities upon greetinsg and departures,
Greet one another with a kiss of love, , a holy kiss, a holy kiss, a holy kiss, a holy kiss

And they all wept sore, and fell on Paul's neck, and kissed him
(1 Peter 5:14, Romans 16:16, 1 Corinthians 16:20, 2 Corinthians 13:12, 1 Thessalonians 5:26, Acts 20:37)
You may think kissing is lacking discretion, but it does address distance. How then do we pray in times like these, ‘Heavenly Father, forgive my lack for not believing you’re able to keep me healthy if I don’t practice social distancing, ,’?

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Old 04-03-2020, 11:39 AM
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Just how boundless is God’s ability to address illness? It has no bounds obviously.

BUT: Is he actually going to interfere with a supernatural act or will he just let the laws of nature that he put in place take their course? Ah, well, there is the real question.

Generally, God tends to not interfere.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:16 AM
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Understanding His boundlessness nor God’s usual response isn’t necessarily a concern,
Understanding each of our own personal confidence to endorse that possibility is where we begin to differ (and why do I resort to pointing fingers), all of us are pretty much on our own level of expectation.

I’ll go as far as saying even if you yield to a formal declaration on the subject, if the rubber of heightened scenarios ever had a chance to meet the road, that is where the gifts of God’s particular graces of faith would present themselves in the clearing.

But, confident in saying you, as well as everyone else here are far from clearing themselves of even the smallest expectation of that possibility, but without the formality, perceive this gap between us (less or more expectant), as safely within His care, thankfully!

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sebab di situ lah seluruh team sepak bola di dunia yang sangat kuata hendak beradu strategi serta dapat di bilang bagaikan piala dunia nya team eropa.

Sebab sengit nya pertandingan tidak terdapat satu orang juga yang bus amemprediksi siapa yang hendak menjuarai piala tersebut serta cuma terdapat 1 team yang sukses memenangkan tournament tersebut serta memperoleh juara 3 kali beruntun di tiap tahun. Serta mengoleksi sebanyak 13 kali. serta di susul dengan team teamn eropa lain nya semacam liverpol yang mengoleksi 7 piala.

Menjuarai di premier liague belum pasti dapat menjuarai liga champion sebab mnetal team pula sangat di butuhkan di trnament ini, serta pula tidak menutupi mungkin buat menyandingakan seluruh piala ataupun kerap di sebut trible winner semacam halnya team Barcelona serta manchaster united salah satu team sukses menyadinkan ke 3 piala tersebut.

Liga champion di adakabn tiap tahunnya serta team team terpilih ialah peringkat 4 besar di kompetisi di negaranya masing masing sebab itu liga champinon sangat bergengsi, liga chapiona umumnya bermain di hari rabu serta kamis di jam 2: 45 ada pula dikala ini telah hingga di sesi 16 besar.

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Apapun keluhan dari pada pemain seluruh tentu dapat di tanyakan langsung serta di jelaskan secara perinci serta kita tidak butuh sungkan buat bertanya sebab untuk mereka iyalah kenyamanan member ialah perihal uatama buat mereka, serta buat dikala ini

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Old 04-04-2020, 09:26 AM
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Agen situs judi online terpecaya di Indonesia
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sbobet terpecaya di Indonesia mau menarangkan sedikit tentang liga champions. Di era saat ini masih banyak sekali yang tidak mengenali tentang tournament sepak bola yang satu ini. Liga champion ialah salah satu tournament sepak bola terbanyak di dunia

sebab di situ lah seluruh team sepak bola di dunia yang sangat kuata hendak beradu strategi serta dapat di bilang bagaikan piala dunia nya team eropa.

Sebab sengit nya pertandingan tidak terdapat satu orang juga yang bus amemprediksi siapa yang hendak menjuarai piala tersebut serta cuma terdapat 1 team yang sukses memenangkan tournament tersebut serta memperoleh juara 3 kali beruntun di tiap tahun. Serta mengoleksi sebanyak 13 kali. serta di susul dengan team teamn eropa lain nya semacam liverpol yang mengoleksi 7 piala.

Menjuarai di premier liague belum pasti dapat menjuarai liga champion sebab mnetal team pula sangat di butuhkan di trnament ini, serta pula tidak menutupi mungkin buat menyandingakan seluruh piala ataupun kerap di sebut trible winner semacam halnya team Barcelona serta manchaster united salah satu team sukses menyadinkan ke 3 piala tersebut.

Liga champion di adakabn tiap tahunnya serta team team terpilih ialah peringkat 4 besar di kompetisi di negaranya masing masing sebab itu liga champinon sangat bergengsi, liga chapiona umumnya bermain di hari rabu serta kamis di jam 2: 45 ada pula dikala ini telah hingga di sesi 16 besar.

Sebab banyak nya yang mengemari trunament ini tidak sedikit warga yang menajdikan liga champion bagaikan perlengkapan buat mendapakan keuntuk ngan lebih dengan di peruntukan nya liga champion bagaikan perlengkapan taruhan ataupun kerap kita sebut bagaikan judi. Biasa nya warga dapat taruhan secara langsung namun saat ini warga pula telah tidak butuh tiba kelapangan

sebab saat ini kita telah dapat memasang taruhan di smartphone masing

masing.

Ligaslots. com ialah salah satu web judi online terpecaya di Indonesia yang sidah beroperasi semenjak tahun 2015 sampai saat ini ada pula salah satu permianan yang di geluti yaitu

menimpa berolahraga serta esport, di berolahraga pula terdapat banyak sekalli game nya semacam Pokerbola, Sbobet, qqvictory, Pokerclub88, judirolet, dadu online, judi slot serta pepsi77

Tidak seluruh golongan paham menimpa judi online namun bermain di liga slots kita di ajarkan dari dini mendaftar

melaksanakan deposit sampai metode melaksanakan Withdraw, serta pula kita hendak di beri kenyamanan dikala bermain di semacam halnya tamu merupakan raja,

Apapun keluhan dari pada pemain seluruh tentu dapat di tanyakan langsung serta di jelaskan secara perinci serta kita tidak butuh sungkan buat bertanya sebab untuk mereka iyalah kenyamanan member ialah perihal uatama buat mereka, serta buat dikala ini

telah banyak warga yang telah merasakan khasiat nya
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FYI, translated English reads as follows:

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because that's where all the soccer teams in the world that I say want to collide with strategy and can be said to be like the world cup of the European team.

Because of the fierce competition there is not one person who predicts who wants to win the cup and there is only 1 team that successfully won the tournament and won 3 times in a row each year. And collecting 13 times. and followed by another European team, liverpol who collected 7 trophies.

Winning at the Premier League is not certain to win the champions league because the team is also very needed in this tournament, and also does not cover the possibility of matching all the trophies or often called a trible winner like the Barcelona team and Manchaster united one successful team to match the 3rd the trophy.

The champions league is held every year and the selected teams rank in the top 4 in the competition in their respective countries because the champinon league is very prestigious, the chapiona league generally plays on Wednesday and Thursday at 2:45 and there are times when it has reached session 16 big.

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Generally, God tends to not interfere.
'The prayer of faith will heal the sick!'
Will the tendencies God has, remain solely at His discretion? Apparently, some do feel He acts entirely without regard to external influence. I think most all will concur with the above prayer of faith, but I suppose due again to their understanding that it is His choice to act upon our prayers which are ‘pretty much’ in the same circle of faith.

But how wrong this is. It has been an issue of faith and doubt from the beginning. How we pray doesn’t always align with how we respond to the law shown to us regarding our recognition of being raised with Christ in spiritual prosperity and natural liberty, all by faith.

Sickness threatens a bit of that faith, but is that entirely because God wasn’t willing to “interfere”, or because we have some self-imposed limitations set up?
‘One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only.’

Romans 14:2
Weak in faith. Would we be correctly criticized if that weakness turned to that "small as a mustard seed" faith mentality?

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'The prayer of faith will heal the sick!'

Will the tendencies God has, remain solely at His discretion?

I should think so. He does not jump when we say Jump.

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Apparently, some do feel He acts entirely without regard to external influence.

I would not go THAT far. He does answer prayers. And when he sees fit he might even answer them with a miracle. On the other hand, sometimes the answer is not what we want. ALL prayers should end with the payer, "Thy will, not mine, be done."

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But how wrong this is.

Not really. Miracles are rare indeed. What good would faith be if we could see a miracle every day.

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It has been an issue of faith and doubt from the beginning.

Not doubt at all.

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Sickness threatens a bit of that faith, but is that entirely because God wasn’t willing to “interfere”, or because we have some self-imposed limitations set up?

Miracles threaten faith far more than sickness does. What good would faith be, what purpose would it serve, if God were offering up miracles every day? There would be no need for faith. But we are Saved By Faith!


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I should think so. He does not jump when we say Jump, , ,He does answer prayers. And when he sees fight he might even answer them with a miracle. On the other hand, sometimes the answer is not what we want. ALL prayers should end with the payer, "Thy will, not mine, be done."
I like the fact that you say, “no doubt at all”, but the trick there is to not let doubtlessness affect our care. For what is left for His will? Yes, first up is to confess His will, but for those not accustomed to rightly dividing associated scripture, that would come across as a; ‘proceed no further, place your request in end-to-end humility.’

When we read in the epistle of James and his using Elijah’s request for it not to rain on the earth for 3-years, was that the result of his somehow stumbling onto God’s will for it not to rain, or purely by what Elijah chose to happen? If the former was the case, there wouldn’t be passages to the contrary mindset. But as it is, several references forward such an expanse of faith.
I have made the earth,
And created man on it.
I—My hands—stretched out the heavens,
And all their host I have commanded.
I have raised him up in righteousness,
And I will direct all his ways, ,
Thus says the Lord,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker:
“Ask Me of things to come concerning My sons;
And concerning the work of My hands, you command Me.


Isaiah 45:12,13,11
I’m not saying it isn’t ultimately at God’s discretion, but I think care should also guide us to consider resisting the expanse and power of disbelief would be more pleasing, more of an expectation of the Rewarder.

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I’m not saying it isn’t ultimately at God’s discretion, but I think care should also guide us to consider resisting the expanse and power of disbelief would be more pleasing, more of an expectation of the Rewarder.
Okay, I agree with that. And I can say, from my side of the great divide, that many people DO expect a miracle. Six million people visit Lourdes every year, including 100,000 volunteers and 80,000 ill and disabled pilgrims seeking cures for their afflictions or the strength to endure them.

And that is just Lourdes, one place.

The 70th miracle: Lourdes healing officially declared supernatural

The miraculous event involved a French nun, Sister Bernadette Moriau, who went on a pilgrimage to the shrine of Our Lady of Lourdes in 2008. She had been suffering from spinal complications which had rendered her wheelchair-bound and fully disabled since 1980. She also said she had been taking morphine to control the pain.

When Sister Moriau visited the Lourdes Shrine almost a decade ago, she said she “never asked for a miracle,” according to the Associated Press.

However, after attending a blessing for the sick at the shrine, something began to change.

“I felt a [surge of] well-being throughout my body, a relaxation, warmth…I returned to my room and there, a voice told me to ‘take off your braces,’” recalled the now 79-year old nun.

“Surprise. I could move,” Moriau said, noting that she instantaneously walked away from her wheelchair, braces, and pain medications.

Moriau’s case was brought to the attention of the International Medical Committee of Lourdes, who extensively researched the nun’s recovery. They eventually found that Moriau’s healing could not be scientifically explained.


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