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Old 12-31-2011, 05:19 PM
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anyone got any views or comments on this topic - as a help/aid via Google search box type in [Cambrian Explosion/learn the Bible] click and learn and comment - twinc
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Introduction

It's relatively accurate, but to say that most text books don't mention the Cambrian Explosion is a bit weak.

'It is considered one of the biggest challenges to evolutionary theory'. Nonsensical. It is a challenge to some aspects of some areas of evolution in that some biologists (such as Gould) propose what is described as punctuated equilibrium to explain it, whereas others (such as Dawkins) disagree. But it does NOT lead to any conclusion that would challenge evolution.

Cambrian Explosion

All good apart from this sentence: No evolutionary sequence here, they are all coexistent simultaneously.

Well, the whole point of the article is to show how so many different fossils appeared in such a short geological time. In such a short time, you're not going to see a great deal of change in any phyla - that's the whole point.

Layers above and below

To state the fact that nothing apart from soft bodied animals has been found underneath this layer is to state the obvious. Soft bodied animals evolved to hard bodied ones and the interesting thing about the Cambrian explosion is that it happened in a (relatively) short period. That's what the so called 'challenge' is about. To explain this. Using the scientific method, that is, rather than throwing your hands up and saying: Goddidit.


'To compound this huge problem the number of species fossilized in the layers above the Cambrian period gradually decrease with each successive layer'.


And this is a problem? If 99% of all species that ever lived are now extinct, then what would you expect to see? Go to your local graveyard and you might find that there are 8 of your great grandparents buried 80 years ago. Then go back to 40 years and there'd be 4 grandparents. 10 years ago and there'd be 2 parents. Do you see the connection?

In fact, the belief that the strata represent different geologic ages is just that, a belief. In short, utter nonsense. We can go the long way and prove it if that's required.

Darwin Knew

Well Darwin didn't know quite a lot. But he did know that the fossil record didn't tell the whole picture but that's always been the case. As I mentioned in another post, even if there were no fossils, it wouldn't matter one bit in regard to a scientific basis for evolution. It's just one small part of the jigsaw.

No Correlation

And no factual statement here either. In fact, a direct contradiction of what evolution exhibits.

Belief in Spite of Evidence

There's no evidence? There's mountains of evidence and this quote: 'They (creationists) are ridiculed because the only alternative to evolution is creation' is risible. If it were, then you could apply the scientific method to it and it would stand. You can't, so it doesn't.

Conclusion

Lots of quotes saying that there's discussion among scientists as to how to interperate the data, some taken out of context (Dawkins for example) and some from Darwin himself admitting that he didn't have all the answers.
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Such estimates of ancient divergence times could contain substantial error caused by uncertainty of the molecular clock assumptions, confounding effects of horizontal gene transfer, and errors in estimating sequence homology (i.e., similarlity). Consequently, attempts to date evolutionary branchings with molecular clocks have resulted in widely different estimates among researchers.
With the space between cells and the space around matter having just as much influence on cells and matter in being we can just not know or begin to understand what "God" can only know.

Just as mysterious is understanding knowing "God".

We could come up with widely different theories with human thinking and present evidence to support it and just as much to dispute it but is there any theory on humanity loving in harmony?

Out of this collective love we may figure how things came together and how everything relates to everything in the being it is.


Quick definitions from WordNet (being)

▸ noun: the state or fact of existing

As it is The Prince of the Air is absorbed into our thinking and keeping us separate in fact not theory. Anyone care to dispute the evidence?

God IS love!
God bless you all!
All of humanity!
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anyone got any views or comments on this topic - as a help/aid via Google search box type in [Cambrian Explosion/learn the Bible] click and learn and comment - twinc
Actually I do have a question for you because Iím kind of confused by your position.

In another thread you pointed to The Kolbe Center as a source of information and yet here you are using the Cambrian Explosion to back up your point. This struck me as odd seeing as the Cambrian explosion happened 545 million years ago and the Kolbe center support a young earth position. So do you agree with the Kolbe centerís position that the earth is young, say around 10,000 years old or do you disagree with them on that point?

Secondly my geology textbooks for both my geology courses in college made reference to the Cambrian explosion and it does not challenge the theory of evolution but rather is very central to many evolutionary models and timelines. Thus I would agree with Brad and say that you canít use it to disprove evolution, but rather only as a critique of certain evolutionary models.
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