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Old 10-27-2009, 07:33 PM
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Yaright, I have a few questions for you.

Do the waters that flow on this earth, bring life to these things our Father created? Are these waters the very image of living waters Jesus spoke of that bring eternal life to those who God created? Are the waters of this earth formed for no purpose, from nothing?
Does the light of this earth; by its very image, reveal spiritual things that darkness once had hidden? Is the light of this earth used with purpose which Jesus teaches us with? Is the light of this earth formed from nothing if the light of Christ is from the beginning, and this light we see was spoken into existence by the knowledge of spiritual matters which existed before-hand? Is the lamb we see formed from nothing when this very spiritual nature of Christ existed before hand and was spoken of in creation?

Is it possible that there are many on this earth that cannot see spiritual matters because they believe all of Creation is formed from nothing?

I don't know....lets ask and find out!
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: By the knowledge of God; Is Creation formed from nothing?

Had a Groundhog day moment there. Wasn't this asked elsewhere. Verbatim?
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:28 AM
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Yes it was Brad, but there is likely a significant reason that you are seeing it again. Did I say that sarcastically? No, really no! Remember my favorite word these days ..."Perspective"...You know...how 2 people can look at the very same thing and "See" 2 totally different things? "See" is the key word. There are things to "See" that are hidden in plain sight from the earthly eye, and this brother has revealed something...which is that it is Not as we all have thought for so long...that God created this earth and all that's in it including us out of nothing. Now we need those eyes that Jesus talked about to be able to "See" the hidden things.

Did you "See" that the Light came first (in Genesis)...and the darkness comprehended it not? Jesus is that light and the mind that cannot See him but is still in darkness comprehends him not. Did you "See" that water was not either created out of nothing, but Jesus is that Living Water that is said to flow as a River in the heavenly Kingdom, and even water here in the natural world is a life giving source...there is no Life without it, not on earth and not in the womb.

Did you "See" that trees were not a new thing made out of nothing...but remember the Trees in the Garden...the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil and the Tree of Life. If we eat of the Tree of Life we live forever...who is the source of Eternal Life? Do we have the knowledge of both Good & Evil here?

Did you "See" that people eat bread from earthly Tables here, that fades so that they are hungry again, and that Jesus has prepared us a Table, and feeds us spiritual Bread that now fills our hunger Eternally? There are spiritual prisons, there are earthly prisons...there is a Spiritual Physician, there are earthly Physicians...

All that we see here, and actually Brad, all that can be seen in "You" and in your earthly house and in all the things you have built around you...can also be seen with the eye that "Sees" the things that are hidden in plain sight.

We discern too much with the natural mind, and that's why we can't "See" what is not physical. But we have other eyes, that are in our heart, that may see these things that are hidden in plain sight...where? In all of God's Creation, and there are just endless things to "See."

Who out of those who are of the Spiritual House here, will comment on this thread? It will be a Joy to hear some responses.
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:16 AM
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Remember my favorite word these days ..."Perspective"...You know...how 2 people can look at the very same thing and "See" 2 totally different things? "See" is the key word. There are things to "See" that are hidden in plain sight from the earthly eye,comment on this thread? It will be a Joy to hear some responses.[/color]
Greetings Kimberly,

I will comment on your post to this thread. I agree with your statement that two people can look at the same thing and see it differently. How about if we try and find something we can see the same and go from there. I'll pick something simple; something that is, as you say: "in plain sight". I'll choose the color of the letters I'm using for this post. It is indeed something simple and in "plain sight", so much so that I feel compelled to answer for you. But will let you answer for yourself what color you see these lettters as being. 'See' if we can agree on that and go from there, eh.

Blessings upon you.

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Old 10-28-2009, 04:14 AM
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They look gray and lifeless.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:19 AM
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They look gray and lifeless.
LOL........
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:28 AM
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God did not need pre-existing matter to create the heavens and the earth. He created everything "ex nihilo", which is Latin for "out of nothing"
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:30 PM
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God did not need pre-existing matter to create the heavens and the earth. He created everything "ex nihilo", which is Latin for "out of nothing"
It took careful consideration of your approach to this thread before I came to understand by the very image you portray; That you are heavily armored in the ways of the world. You say your armor is formed from nothing that our Father speaks of. You believe your battle is with the world everyone can see and was formed from nothing and you do battle for nothing. And, by the image of your armor, you are fighting for your religion which is formed from nothing and has no purpose in fighting for Christ, Who said before the Cross that there was no one to fight for Him. The Apostle Paul spoke of the battle as one not of the things we see pertaining to flesh and blood, but of the things which are not seen and are referred to as principalities, against rulers of darkness.
If everything you see is formed from nothing, then what do you stand for, Nothing? What do you fight for, nothing? If you do not use creation in your language because it is formed from nothing, Than why are you here?

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Old 10-28-2009, 07:32 PM
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Yaright, I have a few questions for you.

Do the waters that flow on this earth, bring life to these things our Father created? Are these waters the very image of living waters Jesus spoke of that bring eternal life to those who God created? Are the waters of this earth formed for no purpose, from nothing?
Does the light of this earth; by its very image, reveal spiritual things that darkness once had hidden? Is the light of this earth used with purpose which Jesus teaches us with? Is the light of this earth formed from nothing if the light of Christ is from the beginning, and this light we see was spoken into existence by the knowledge of spiritual matters which existed before-hand? Is the lamb we see formed from nothing when this very spiritual nature of Christ existed before hand and was spoken of in creation?

Is it possible that there are many on this earth that cannot see spiritual matters because they believe all of Creation is formed from nothing?

I don't know....lets ask and find out!
Unlike humans, when The Father(Creator) of ALL speaks there is substance.......

HIS Word is Something of HIM WHO IS.......

And HE spoke The Word, "Let There Be Light" and "There Was Light".......

LIGHT begot Light.......

The Messiah, "The Beginning of The Creation of The Only True G-D", "the glory The Messiah had with The Father before the world began".......

Yet men love darkness(lies) rather than The Light of Truth.......

Sadly, theo'ry'logical systems of religion have so perverted The Testimonies that "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of".......

Yet there is hope!

For Miracles do happen.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world, for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"....... francis
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:52 PM
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Unlike humans, when The Father(Creator) of ALL speaks there is substance.......

HIS Word is Something of HIM WHO IS.......

And HE spoke The Word, "Let There Be Light" and "There Was Light".......

LIGHT begot Light.......

The Messiah, "The Beginning of The Creation of The Only True G-D", "the glory The Messiah had with The Father before the world began".......

Yet men love darkness(lies) rather than The Light of Truth.......

Sadly, theo'ry'logical systems of religion have so perverted The Testimonies that "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of".......

Yet there is hope!

For Miracles do happen.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world, for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"....... francis
I know you by the language you speak. Thank you for suffering to understand these things.
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