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Old 09-13-2014, 04:29 PM
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was Adam after the fall,still in the image and likeness of God with an immortal soul etc - we are not it seems created in the image and likeness of God but in the fallen image and likeness of Adam after the Fall[Gen.5:3] imho - twinc
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was Adam after the fall,still in the image and likeness of God with an immortal soul etc - we are not it seems created in the image and likeness of God but in the fallen image and likeness of Adam after the Fall[Gen.5:3] imho - twinc
We have probably fallen a lot further than Adam.
The better of us would be like Adam. The worst like Cain. Probably worst, like Hitler.
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Old 09-15-2014, 12:51 PM
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I believe we were never created in the image and likeness of fallen Adam (we aren't creators) but in the image and likeness of God the Father Who neither sins, suffers, and dies. Adam "begets" a son (after the Fall) who inherits the same dualistic belief-system his Dad had and so on. Christ Jesus came to show us the way back to the Father and our true, created selves.

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Old 09-15-2014, 03:46 PM
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I believe we were never created in the image and likeness of fallen Adam (we aren't creators) but in the image and likeness of God the Father Who neither sins, suffers, and dies. Adam "begets" a son (after the Fall) who inherits the same dualistic belief-system his Dad had and so on. Christ Jesus came to show us the way back to the Father and our true, created selves.

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correction - we are begotten in the image and likeness of Adam after 'The Fall'[Gen.5:3] - twinc
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Adam was created in the image and likeness of God in that he was a person and he had free will. He was able to love and enter into communion with other humans.

God gave Adam an immortal soul and breathed his spirit into him. Adamís human nature was clothed in grace and because of that Adam was able to commune with God.

When Adam sinned he lost the grace of God and divine gifts, and was left with his human nature. That nature was damaged in that his will no longer ruled his desires and his desires led him and his offspring further into sin. Without grace we are unable to enter into a covenant realtionship with God and be in initimate communion with him.

It is that damaged nature that we inherit.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:27 PM
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was Adam after the fall,still in the image and likeness of God with an immortal soul etc - we are not it seems created in the image and likeness of God but in the fallen image and likeness of Adam after the Fall[Gen.5:3] imho - twinc
You are right. But Jesus restores us to God's image when we become born again through the perfect work of Jesus Christ on the Cross.
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And this is in the science section because..?
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And this is in the science section because..?
Behavioural science...?

Categories of behavioural sciences
Behavioural sciences can be divided into two academic fields: neural (information sciences) and social (relational sciences).

Information processing sciences deal with information processing of stimuli from the social environment by cognitive entities, to engage in decision making, social judgement and social perception for individual functioning and survival of organism in a social environment. Psychology, cognitive science, psychobiology, neural networks, social cognition, social psychology, semantic networks, ethology and social neuroscience are classified as information processing sciences.

On the other hand, relational sciences deals with relationships, interaction, communication networks, associations and relational strategies or dynamics among organisms or cognitive entities in a social system. sociological social psychology, social networks, dynamic network analysis, agent-based model and microsimulation are classified as relational sciences.
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And this is in the science section because..?
Creation! As opposed to that monkey business called evolution! lol
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Creation!
Which belongs in the theology section.

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As opposed to that monkey business called evolution! lol
Which belongs here, in the scientific section.
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