Originally Posted by kathaksung

Weapons came from Pentagon, fighters from US Guantanamo train center, and funded by Pentagon too.

Quote, "In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel's case was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified. Bunel's character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system "got him" for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group. It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of "Al Qaeda." We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

.waynemadsenreport.

Good Posts. As always your posts show truths that are surpressed by many as they disrupt their little white picket fence world. It is people like you that help the American people to see what is going on and perhaps save their "democracy".

Originally Posted by Seeker100

Good Posts. As always your posts show truths that are surpressed by many as they disrupt their little white picket fence world. It is people like you that help the American people to see what is going on and perhaps save their "democracy".

I am not sure why you like ****ing sunshine up this guys skirt. But his posts are far from the truth. Keep in mind he is not an American. Be mindful and don't get sucked into his "bash America from the inside out" campaign. This is a common practice found in many places across the internet. Another tactic of radical and unstable Islam. If this was not the case. Then he would be voicing his opinion about his own government and working for a change. As America has and is doing.

[kathaksung]

Originally Posted by LewisM3

I am not sure why you like ****ing sunshine up this guys skirt. But his posts are far from the truth. Keep in mind he is not an American. Be mindful and don't get sucked into his "bash America from the inside out" campaign. This is a common practice found in many places across the internet. Another tactic of radical and unstable Islam. If this was not the case. Then he would be voicing his opinion about his own government and working for a change. As America has and is doing.

I am US citizen. I am ethnic Chinese. I have no relationship to Islam. I just feel sorrow for those innocent people who died in the false flag attack. I use my real name to post - Kat Hak Sung. And I think I was attacked by "swift boat team" of the government. Do you ever consider why there is rarely any discussion about 911 truth in mainstream media? Yet, This is a common practice found in many places across the internet. , even so, majority of people think US government more or less involved in 911 attack.

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Not only those 19 hijackers of 9/11 came from US ally country, the Al Qaida fighters also came from US Guantanamo camp. It became a recruit center for Al Qaida.

Report: Ex-Gitmo detainee joins al-Qaida in Yemen

news.yahoo./s/ap/20090123/

1. These people were released under Bush regime. So Pentagon had purpose on it. Do you think the people like Rumsfeld and Bush would free extremists to fight against them? They are famous for torture, illegal detaining. More likely these are false flag "terrorist" trained by Pentagon's Guantanamo college. They will work for the interest of US intelligence.

2. How do you know they were not brain washed, or recruited by US military or intelligence? The dirty bomb suspect, Padilla, was once designed to be the witness to prove Iraq related to dirty bomb plot, was recruited in prison. (The plan was soured after my revelation)

3. When people are aware of that 911 was a false flag attack, this becomes a typical model that government manipulate the "terrorists" to squeeze money and power from people. European country has reason to refuse those Gitmo prisoners. They are likely false flag "terrorist" working for Pentagon and US intelligence. They will play the role like Bin Laden.

Quote, "MORE FREED GITMO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS GO JIHAD

The Defense Department has said as many as 61 former Guantanamo detainees -- about 11 percent of 520 detainees transferred from the detention center and released -- are believed to have returned to the fight."

Originally Posted by kathaksung

Do you ever consider why there is rarely any discussion about 911 truth in mainstream media? Yet, This is a common practice found in many places across the internet.

To speculate why or why not the media of our country does something is a waste of time. The bottom line is all about ratings and making money. They don't care about content... Therefore your question is of no importance.

The internet is filled full of people's opinions. Not factual knowledge. Which should be no surprise to anyone that reads your posts. We can only assume that what you present as "fact". Originated or was found on the internet. Because so far you have yet to post any real fact. And to be honest I find your posts to be rude and disrespectful. But then as another member pointed out. People like Cindy Sheehan make little to no sense most of the time. I suppose that is your take on reality as well.... "it doesn't have to make sense. As long as it says what I want it to."

I find myself wondering as I read your posts. I wonder how much time you could have spent doing something really productive. Instead of wasting it looking up false facts, and making your posts here???

[kathaksung]

Because so far you have yet to post any real fact.

I wish instead of discredit, have some material discussion on my article which is full of real fact. Here is some fact for you.

How could the insiders plant explosives in WTC? Take over the security. The point of this article is not about the fortune made in WTC collapsing, but why the WTC changed hands two months before 9/11.

, " Larry "Lucky Larry" Silverstein
by 911 inside job
Thursday Sep 7th, 2006 10:07 AM
"You've got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment
Of $124 Million
Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire World Trade Centre complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That Was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had ever changed ownership.

Mr. Silverstein's first order of business as the new owner was to change The company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security
company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin's cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines - two key players in the 9/11 attacks.

The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the
Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.
Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.

Another little "coincidence" -- Mr. Silverstein, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7
Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against "terrorist attacks".
Following the attacks, Silverstein filed two insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion - a princely return on a relatively paltry
investment of $124 million.

There's more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?

The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was
well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell.
For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an ageing dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due to the known asbestos problem.

Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to dissemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.

The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected "terrorist" attack demolished the buildings completely.

WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed - exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.

How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:

"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you, "Pull" is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history - including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building's tenants:

US Secret Service
NSA
CIA
IRS
BATF
SEC
NAIC Securities
Salomon Smith Barney
American Express Bank International
Standard Chartered Bank
Provident Financial Management
ITT Hartford Insurance Group
Federal Home Loan Bank

The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. ..."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.

Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.
What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.

Incidentally, it's worth noting that one of Lucky Larry's closest friends - a person with whom it's said he speaks almost daily by phone - is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

More on that cozy little relationship later...

indybay.org/newsitems/2006/09/07/18306895.php

[Amadeus]

Kat Hak Sung,

Both Seeker100 and LewisM3 are no longer members of the forum.

Thank you for your information and participation here! I am not going to join in this discussion, not because I disbelieve your information, but because there is nothing that I would be likely to do with it. I would be careful even about passing it on to others. I have not doubt that the U.S. Government has some very serious problems. I am a Viet Nam vet as well as a retired Social Security Administration employee so there are a few things that I know from my own experience. I have read about too many things that have been very well documented I also am a follower of Christ and I believe that the Lord has given some insight into people. In a nutshell, unfortunately, very few people can be trusted most of the time. I give anyone the benefit of a doubt. Until they prove they are untrustworthy I will give them the opportunity to prove themselves.

In Danang, Viet Nam, we had a barracks thief. He stole money and other things of material value from everyone in our signal corps platoon. He was a super nice guy on the surface. Every one who met him liked him.

It was after he was transferred to someplace else in Viet Nam that he was caught stealing. He had stlen $40.00 from me that I had cached in my winter uniforms, which were never used that such a warm climate. I didn't miss the money, but when they caught him, he confessed to all giving names, places and money amounts. He was court-maritialed and would have been sent to the stockade, but, General Westmoreland, the commanding general at the time there, let his go free after receiving his promise that he would pay back everyone that he had stolen from. Of course, neither I nor any of my fellow victims ever received a penny from the man. Am I angry with the man? No, not a bit! I include him in my prayers these days. Nevertheless, his example is not unusual is it?

Most everyone has a bit of natural love for something, be it money or women or whatever. We are not to be trusted. Included, of course, in the 'we' are all of the people who are involved in the operation of this nation's government. Only God is always trustworthy.

I do not believe that the U.S. Government can be saved. Individuals can be, but they will be the few of the total. Most people are going the other way.

[Bloodwashed]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink! Bush, or Obama it makes no difference. Its called divide & conquor. Dems & Repubs, different sides of the same coin. Wake up christians, we belong to the kingdom of God. The kingdoms of men are crashing. I don't think Jesus would even vote, it's such a sham!

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by Bloodwashed

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink! Bush, or Obama it makes no difference. Its called divide & conquor. Dems & Repubs, different sides of the same coin. Wake up christians, we belong to the kingdom of God. The kingdoms of men are crashing. I don't think Jesus would even vote, it's such a sham!

I wish it wasn't so, but I must say, Amen!

[kathaksung]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

Kat Hak Sung,

Both Seeker100 and LewisM3 are no longer members of the forum.

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I wonder why they "are no longer members of the forum". Because for their speech they were banned from the forum?

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My opinion for US government: both parties work for the interest of the Inside Group. Thus they share one Secretary of Defense and keep the Patriot Act.

582. Robert Gates' career prolonged for Iran war (1/15/09)

Petro dollar benefits US economy a lot. When Iran abandons dollar as oil trading currency, it shakes dollar foundation significantly. To stabilize the dollar position, the war on Iran is inevitable. The latest attempt to war on Iran was failed in August 2008. Next month, in September, a financial crisis is created to save the dollar. The financial crisis push people to change the investment into cash - the dollar, and drives the dollar into a balloon - US bond. The Inside Group will keep that balloon for months, no longer than a year. They will keep that balloon until the Iran war break out.

The reason I said so is out of a decision made by the President elect - Obama. He decides to let Bush's Defense Secretary - Robert Gates to stay in chair for one more year. It means the Inside group still wants to finish Iran war within a year. They maintain that dollar balloon from popping until the war comes.

Robert Gates is a well selected neo-con follower. He is no other than Rumsfeld, Bush and Ashcroft. He has been chosen to command the soured Iran war of 2008 August. No one is more familiar with that war project then him. No one will work better than him with that military official group inside Pentagon which developed the Iran war project. It was an urgent war. If Bush can't stay in President seat, Gates will be the right person to stay for the war.

Barak Obama won the president election by his slogan "change". One important reason he won the campaign is because he said he opposes Iraq war. But when it touches the interest of the Inside Group, he has to obey. In an area where needs an utter "change", he reacts with "un change". He says he opposes Iraq war, because the bird is held in hand already. It doesn't cost anything but a lip service. But when his master gave an order, he will hug another war.

Politicians are picked up from the followers of the Inside Group. High ranking politicians have been all screened tier upon tier. They are all the same even though they pretend to be different by sticking a different sign of donkey or elephant. When people are tired of a white wolf, they gave you a black one. But on the core it's the same. Wolf won't change its habit to eat lamb.

There is a Chinese fable: Three for breakfast and four for super. It says a monkey keeper gave his monkey four nuts in breakfast and three for supper. Monkey felt hungry and protested. The keeper thought for a while than pretended compromise. He said, "OK, you win, I will give you three nuts in morning and four in the evening." Monkey thought it won because the keeper changed three into four for supper. So when Obama gives you four nuts for supper but three in the morning, do you think there is a change?

[Amadeus]

Originally Posted by Amadeus
Kat Hak Sung,

Both Seeker100 and LewisM3 are no longer members of the forum.

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I wonder why they "are no longer members of the forum". Because for their speech they were banned from the forum?

Your questions must be directed to a moderator or the Administrator! My information is hearsay only!