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The Ice Ball-The Melt-The beginning of life---The Here & NOW

People ask about the biblical flood and wonder if it was/is possible.
I’m going to throughout some facts then we can debate the evidence found and where we go from here-

[1] to begin you must have enough water to cover the land as far as the eye can see. So where did the water come from--------- (?)

About 650 years ago earth was mostly covered in ice.

An ice shelf is a thick suspended platform of ice that forms where a glacier or ice sheet flows down to acoastline and onto the ocean surface. Ice shelves are only found in Antarctica, Greenland, Canada, and theRussian Arctic. The boundary between the floating ice shelf and the anchor ice (resting on bedrock) that feeds it is called the grounding line. The thickness of ice shelves can range from about 100 m (330 ft) to 1,000 m (3,300 ft).

The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that during one or more of Earth's icehouse climates, Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya(million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropicalpalaeolatitudes and other enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation andthe geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean[3][4]
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"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator Earth's now steamy Equator was covered with ice 716 million years ago, according to a new study. Strange fossil may be rare insect preserved in gemstone.

The finding appears to add solid evidence to the theory of an ancient "snowball Earth."
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[2] A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming

Global warming began 18,000 years ago as the earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

[3] The beginning of life on earth—

About 700 million years ago plants began to evolve absorbing the CO2 and exhaling O2.
The dirty ice could have been the only dark spots on Earth's surface to absorb the sun's rays. As a result, these regions may have been more likely to melt, creating water bodies where primitive life-forms, such as algae and fungi, could thrive.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

This is the time period when “life” started living on the surface of the ice and among the melting water.

[2] Planet Earth was a very inhospitable place with no oxygen (O2) and only single-celled bacteria as inhabitants. According to a new study, the oxygen content in the air began to increase about 2.4 billion years ago, at the same time as the global glaciation and when all continents were gathered in a single huge landmass
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

Approximately every 100,000 years Earth's climate warms up temporarily. These warm periods, called interglacial periods, appear to last approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years before regressing back to a cold ice age climate. At year 18,000 and counting our current interglacial vacation from the Ice Age is much nearer its end than its beginning.
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More evidence of the melting ice—
Erosion generally forms very uneven surfaces. Now, look again at the pictures of the Grand Canyon in this paper and notice the crisp parallel lines between each layer. Many claim that there are evidences of erosion in lower layers, evidences of rivers, streams, rain, etc. However, these are generally isolated findings such as one might expect if they were formed rapidly, such as occurs with the rapid runoff of waters after a catastrophic flooding event.

After this formation, a massive amount of water was suddenly released in a huge runoff that covered several states, flowing from east to west. All of the sediment over the Grand Canyon region, above the Kaibab, was removed very rapidly by an extremely wide sheet of rapidly running water. Cedar Ridge was one massive waterfall. Notice that there is a distinct V-shaped formation at the tip where the eastern Grand Canyon begins - pointing toward Lake Powell. One can also recognize the deep punched-out appearance of the Canyon itself from the satellite photo as well as many of the other Canyon photos presented here. In other photos one can see the massive cliff-like faces that form a very wide valley where, in the middle, the Grand Canyon has been formed. The Grand Canyon is actually the baby canyon in comparison to the canyon in which is sits.

It seems that the sheet of rushing water dissipated before it could remove all of the elevated features, such as the various flat-topped buttes, in the GC region - which still remain as isolated islands sticking up above the relative flatness of the surrounding landscape. Also, as the water rapidly dissipated and the sheet of water narrowed, the "steps" of the Grand Staircase were formed.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

The oxygen increase was created by living organisms breathing in CO2 and exhaling (O2); absorbing the carbon.

Ammonites are perhaps the most widely known fossil, possessing the typically ribbed spiral-form shell as pictured above. These creatures lived in the seas between 240 - 65 million years ago, when they became extinct along with the dinosaurs. The name 'ammonite' (usually lower-case) originates from the Greek Ram-horned god called Ammon. Ammonites belong to a group of predators known as cephalopods, which includes their living relatives the octopus, squid, cuttlefish and nautilus (see pictures below).
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The Here And Now---------------

"Potentially historic" flooding threatens Southern states
Scientists are warning that historic flooding could soon deluge parts of several Southern states along the lower Mississippi River, where floodwaters could persist for several weeks. The flood threat in the South will be discussed Thursday, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration releases its 2019 spring outlook.

Experts plan a briefing on their flood forecast at the National Water Center in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Thursday's report is aimed at helping emergency managers and other safety officials to prepare for flooding.

Flooding in Southern states this spring will be "potentially historic," NOAA said in an advisory.
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The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

An “unprecedented” flood season lies ahead this spring, according to NOAA.
By Umair Irfan Updated Mar 27, 2019, 2:21pm EDT
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Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate
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What do we do now---?
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Old 05-05-2019, 02:46 PM
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The Ice Ball-The Melt-The beginning of life---The Here & NOW

People ask about the biblical flood and wonder if it was/is possible.
-...snip....

The Here And Now---------------

"Potentially historic" flooding threatens Southern states
Scientists are warning that historic flooding could soon deluge parts of several Southern states along the lower Mississippi River, where floodwaters could persist for several weeks. The flood threat in the South will be discussed Thursday, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration releases its 2019 spring outlook.

Experts plan a briefing on their flood forecast at the National Water Center in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Thursday's report is aimed at helping emergency managers and other safety officials to prepare for flooding.

Flooding in Southern states this spring will be "potentially historic," NOAA said in an advisory.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

An “unprecedented” flood season lies ahead this spring, according to NOAA.
By Umair Irfan Updated Mar 27, 2019, 2:21pm EDT
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

What do we do now---?
You left out the part about the governments controlling weather and using it to filter the air or as a weapon. with that said-

.... snip...Tip No. 1: Rising muddy water may provide a bonanza for catfishermen. Channel cats, in particular, feed heavily under such conditions. These channels will bite on a variety of baits, but the two most common are worms and chicken liver.---snip...

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The Ice Ball-The Melt-The beginning of life---The Here & NOW

People ask about the biblical flood and wonder if it was/is possible.
I’m going to throughout some facts then we can debate the evidence found and where we go from here-

[1] to begin you must have enough water to cover the land as far as the eye can see. So where did the water come from--------- (?)

About 650 years ago earth was mostly covered in ice.

An ice shelf is a thick suspended platform of ice that forms where a glacier or ice sheet flows down to acoastline and onto the ocean surface. Ice shelves are only found in Antarctica, Greenland, Canada, and theRussian Arctic. The boundary between the floating ice shelf and the anchor ice (resting on bedrock) that feeds it is called the grounding line. The thickness of ice shelves can range from about 100 m (330 ft) to 1,000 m (3,300 ft).

The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that during one or more of Earth's icehouse climates, Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya(million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropicalpalaeolatitudes and other enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation andthe geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean[3][4]
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator Earth's now steamy Equator was covered with ice 716 million years ago, according to a new study. Strange fossil may be rare insect preserved in gemstone.

The finding appears to add solid evidence to the theory of an ancient "snowball Earth."
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

[2] A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming

Global warming began 18,000 years ago as the earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

[3] The beginning of life on earth—

About 700 million years ago plants began to evolve absorbing the CO2 and exhaling O2.
The dirty ice could have been the only dark spots on Earth's surface to absorb the sun's rays. As a result, these regions may have been more likely to melt, creating water bodies where primitive life-forms, such as algae and fungi, could thrive.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

This is the time period when “life” started living on the surface of the ice and among the melting water.

[2] Planet Earth was a very inhospitable place with no oxygen (O2) and only single-celled bacteria as inhabitants. According to a new study, the oxygen content in the air began to increase about 2.4 billion years ago, at the same time as the global glaciation and when all continents were gathered in a single huge landmass
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

Approximately every 100,000 years Earth's climate warms up temporarily. These warm periods, called interglacial periods, appear to last approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years before regressing back to a cold ice age climate. At year 18,000 and counting our current interglacial vacation from the Ice Age is much nearer its end than its beginning.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

More evidence of the melting ice—
Erosion generally forms very uneven surfaces. Now, look again at the pictures of the Grand Canyon in this paper and notice the crisp parallel lines between each layer. Many claim that there are evidences of erosion in lower layers, evidences of rivers, streams, rain, etc. However, these are generally isolated findings such as one might expect if they were formed rapidly, such as occurs with the rapid runoff of waters after a catastrophic flooding event.

After this formation, a massive amount of water was suddenly released in a huge runoff that covered several states, flowing from east to west. All of the sediment over the Grand Canyon region, above the Kaibab, was removed very rapidly by an extremely wide sheet of rapidly running water. Cedar Ridge was one massive waterfall. Notice that there is a distinct V-shaped formation at the tip where the eastern Grand Canyon begins - pointing toward Lake Powell. One can also recognize the deep punched-out appearance of the Canyon itself from the satellite photo as well as many of the other Canyon photos presented here. In other photos one can see the massive cliff-like faces that form a very wide valley where, in the middle, the Grand Canyon has been formed. The Grand Canyon is actually the baby canyon in comparison to the canyon in which is sits.

It seems that the sheet of rushing water dissipated before it could remove all of the elevated features, such as the various flat-topped buttes, in the GC region - which still remain as isolated islands sticking up above the relative flatness of the surrounding landscape. Also, as the water rapidly dissipated and the sheet of water narrowed, the "steps" of the Grand Staircase were formed.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

The oxygen increase was created by living organisms breathing in CO2 and exhaling (O2); absorbing the carbon.

Ammonites are perhaps the most widely known fossil, possessing the typically ribbed spiral-form shell as pictured above. These creatures lived in the seas between 240 - 65 million years ago, when they became extinct along with the dinosaurs. The name 'ammonite' (usually lower-case) originates from the Greek Ram-horned god called Ammon. Ammonites belong to a group of predators known as cephalopods, which includes their living relatives the octopus, squid, cuttlefish and nautilus (see pictures below).
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

The Here And Now---------------

"Potentially historic" flooding threatens Southern states
Scientists are warning that historic flooding could soon deluge parts of several Southern states along the lower Mississippi River, where floodwaters could persist for several weeks. The flood threat in the South will be discussed Thursday, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration releases its 2019 spring outlook.

Experts plan a briefing on their flood forecast at the National Water Center in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Thursday's report is aimed at helping emergency managers and other safety officials to prepare for flooding.

Flooding in Southern states this spring will be "potentially historic," NOAA said in an advisory.
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

An “unprecedented” flood season lies ahead this spring, according to NOAA.
By Umair Irfan Updated Mar 27, 2019, 2:21pm EDT
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate
GOOGLE TOPIC FOR LINK

What do we do now---?

With their normal 40 foot tides, why haven't we heard something about how the Bay of Fundy is surviving?

JIM
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