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07-03-2009, 01:44 PM
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| | What if... We all, in the words of CatholicCrusader, went home to Rome? Despite the fact that Rome is not really our home. But what would happen if we all, armed to the tooth with our knowledge and revelations and independent attitudes filed into the doors of the Catholic church and announced: Honey, I'm home!!, and I'm here to stay. Then we all began to preach and teach the word, alongside our Catholic brothers and sisters? Just what would happen to us and that ages old house of God if we really decided to become one with them again? What do you think? Would that be a shock to the system or what? Could the old wine skin give enough to keep from bursting? Would we add to the flavor or would we just ruin it? Could they remain the same church they are today or would anyone even recognize them in a few years? Pretty heavy stuff, because if we are to be one, somebody, or a whole bunch of somebodies, are going to have to get up out of our present comfort zone and make an exodus. Would we even be able to take the chance of falling into the hands of or allow into our midst those we might think of as our "enemies"? Anyone care to share your wisdom? |  Today
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07-03-2009, 01:53 PM
| | | Re: What if... Although it would be histerically funny if that happened..I could imagine the look when everyone arrived at the door.
I for one do not agree with catholasism so it would not work for me.
I think it would only work if everyone that went conformed to the catholic doctrine. Or else everyone would be preaching a different word and we would have to call the new church....erm.... true2ourselves ?
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07-03-2009, 01:58 PM
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| | Re: What if... So Daniel, you don't think the truth you have is strong enough to change the Catholic church? No Bribes have come in yet. | 
07-03-2009, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by christkid777 So Daniel, you don't think the truth you have is strong enough to change the Catholic church? No Bribes have come in yet. | Well truth can only be accepted by a teachable spirit. One must seek the truth to find it.
In my walk I have figured out a few things
I do not know all the truth so I must still search. People of denominations do not change there mind when it comes to scripture. They have been taught a certain way Gods Word and go with that. They put there trust in there pastor or priest or elders, whatever it may be.
So to answer your question brother I would say yes the truth is powerful enough for those who seek it.
Ok now before i get attacked...I did not say denominatoins dont know any truth. Im saying there is only one truth and obviously all the denominations cant be correct (nor can I) But at least Im open enough to admit it and change my views when I see it.
Also I might add that the OP made this post about catholic church my answer would have been the same for any church he said (save the church of Jesus Christ)
see mark I dont single out catholics : ) | 
07-03-2009, 02:16 PM
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| | Re: What if... Going home huh? The fact of the matter is I want whatever God wants. Returning to the Catholic Church doesn't presently seem to be in the package for me, but I am the first one to admit that I do not know everything that God has for me. Not what I will, but rather, Lord, what Thou wilt!
Why would God do something like that some might ask? Why does God many things that we do not understand? When I understand all that I need to understand, then I will be enough like Jesus to be able to give a more definitive answer. | 
07-08-2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by christkid777 We all, in the words of CatholicCrusader, went home to Rome? Despite the fact that Rome is not really our home. But what would happen if we all, armed to the tooth with our knowledge and revelations and independent attitudes filed into the doors of the Catholic church and announced: Honey, I'm home!!, and I'm here to stay. Then we all began to preach and teach the word, alongside our Catholic brothers and sisters? Just what would happen to us and that ages old house of God if we really decided to become one with them again? What do you think? Would that be a shock to the system or what? Could the old wine skin give enough to keep from bursting? Would we add to the flavor or would we just ruin it? Could they remain the same church they are today or would anyone even recognize them in a few years? Pretty heavy stuff, because if we are to be one, somebody, or a whole bunch of somebodies, are going to have to get up out of our present comfort zone and make an exodus. Would we even be able to take the chance of falling into the hands of or allow into our midst those we might think of as our "enemies"? Anyone care to share your wisdom? | Wow!! How did I ever miss THIS post.
I beleieve there would be great rejoicing. Sometimes my doctrinal rigidity tends to overshadow the fact that the Church is full of regular folks who do Bible studys, picnics, and other events. Everyone is welcome!!
From a logistical standpoint - having enough room & pews & so forth - it might become difficult. But, as they say, the Lord will provide. But I suppose if EVERYONE came over, we could have your church buildings too. LOL!
And you have no enemies in the Catholic Church. Of THAT I can assure you. Obviously, for me, that would be a great day indeed! I have seen it on a small scale too. There is a former Pentecostal preacher, Alex Jones, who not only became Catholic, but his ENTIRE CONGREGATION came with him!! True story!! Here is his story: CLICK.
Yup, that would be a great day indeed
BTW: There's a TV show dedicated to those who "come home to Rome": 
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07-08-2009, 03:51 PM
| | | Re: What if... That's some pretty heavy thinking Christkidd777... what about it going to it's original roots? lol... now I know CC you'll love this thought. There would have to be give on both sides.  | 
07-08-2009, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MMari That's some pretty heavy thinking Christkidd777... what about it going to it's original roots? lol... now I know CC you'll love this thought. There would have to be give on both sides.  | Weeeeeelllllllllll................
.....unfortunately, there could never be any "give" in matters of doctrine and dogma. Those are defined and can never change.
And therein lies the big stumbling block no doubt. There is room for give in some areas, but regarding all things taught in the Catechism, there is none. Thats part of being a Catholic, believeing that the Holy Spirit guides the popes and the councils in their teachings without error | 
07-08-2009, 04:18 PM
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| | Re: What if... Quote:
Originally Posted by christkid777 We all, in the words of CatholicCrusader, went home to Rome? Despite the fact that Rome is not really our home. But what would happen if we all, armed to the tooth with our knowledge and revelations and independent attitudes filed into the doors of the Catholic church and announced: Honey, I'm home!!, and I'm here to stay. Then we all began to preach and teach the word, alongside our Catholic brothers and sisters? | The key words you have spoken, armed to the tooth with OUR knowledge,revelations, and independent attitudes, ONE more BIG fight
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07-08-2009, 04:21 PM
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.....unfortunately, there could never be any "give" in matters of doctrine and dogma. Those are defined and can never change. CC
| Perhaps herein lies some part of the reason for the split so long ago. It seems plain to me that Luther didn't just wake up one morning and say "Hey, what a great day to break up the church!". The issues he pointed up were most likely brewing for a long time. Others had tried to bring these issues to light, Luther had tried to bring these issues to light but the men in charge saw no reason to give any ground. They were in control and were determined to stay there. So they didn't want to sit down and say "Brother Luther, whats bugging you so much?". There is no way to know if that would have led to a different outcome, but the willingness to receive one's brother and sit in discussion would have been a far better spirit than just dismissing the man outright. That unwillingness to receive one another and discuss the issues would be one of the first great test of any effort to reaffirm the covenant. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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