[NotFinishedYet]

Okay, I'm gonna admit it straight up, I'm lazy today. I'm gonna be gone most the day and not have time to research for myself a question that's been buzzing around my head that now wants answered. What's with the rebuilding of the Temple?

I know many believe that the Temple in Jerusalem must be rebuilt before Christ's return and it's seen as a prophetic sign, but others point to the issue that we are the Temple of God so a physical one isn't needed. Then it seems that there's a verse in Revelation about Jesus rebuilding His temple Himself....

Can you share with me your thoughts on all this? TY

Rev. makes mention of the false prophet sacrificing a goat on the altar and sitting in the throne of a temple in Jerusalem.

Since a part of God dwells within us than one could call our bodies a temple.

As for the one Jesus builds. That is associated with the 'new Jerusalem' that descends from heaven and is to be a part of the 'new earth'. Speaking of the new earth. I remember reading years back where someone mentioned that the new earth would no longer rotate. The sun would light one side of the planet. The light emanating from the 'new Jerusalem would light the other side of the planet, so that the world would never know physical darkness again. I thought it was an interesting concept and left it at that.

[Amadeus]

God built man as a beautiful temple:

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Gen 2:7

But man defiled that temple. God sent His Son to tear down the old temple and build a new one in and for each of us:

"We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands." Mark 14:58

"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves," Matt 21:12

He came into our hearts and cast out the beasts in us that would buy or sell salvation and the free things of God for money.

Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?" Matt 23:17

"Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" I Cor 3:16

"In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." John 14:2

The place is in us, is us, a place for God to dwell, an undefiled temple.

"And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head."Matt 8:20

"Surely I will not come into the tabernacle of my house, nor go up into my bed;

I will not give sleep to mine eyes, or slumber to mine eyelids,

Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob." Psalm 132:3-5

"For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.

This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have desired it." Psalm 132:13-14

So what and where is this Zion? This is another name for Jerusalem. My pastor said once that Zion is God's order. When everything in us is ordered (organized, established) in His perfect Way then we will be also in and part of this Zion...

"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." Rev 21:2

I watched a Biblical Documentary yesterday....Israel apparently had made attempt to lay a stone toward the rebuilding of the Temple and the Muslims began attack, at some point in the past. Today both groups are at a stand still ...both wanting to rebuild but if either makes an attempt...war!

This presentation, about the 7 signs of Christs Return, had this answer...The man of (false) peace will solve this dissention and will create the Peace that will allow the temple to be rebuilt...and ofcourse for his seat there!

I can see that happening...because what else will allow the possibility for either group to rebuild in the state they are in with each other right now?

[christkid777]

I think in the ultimate sense the temple is, as Amadeus stated, built from the people redeemed from the earth. This was to be the form of the first temple and will be the only temple in the final end. The building built in the interim are not true temples of the Spirit. The true temple is being built right now by the Spirit.

I don't have any real confidence in most of the attempts of men to predict the future from scripture. I don't sense the Spirit of truth in their interpretations and assertions. Of course others might think the same about me. But when I look at the temple mount what do I see there today? The abomination that causes desolation. The stronghold of the false assertion which separates men from the hope of Christ. If we truly believe what Christ said about Himself we could see it no other way.

I see that too C.C. I guess I'm just thinking about the sign of the rebuilding of that earthly temple. No doubt that it will become the place of the highest abomination when the Man of Perdition enthrones himself on the seat of David. It's horrific to think of. Blasphemy at it's heighth. Yes, the True Temple and the True New Jerusalem are not built by earthly hands.

[christkid777]

Perhaps you could do me a favor PG and lay out the scriptures that point to this rebuilding you make reference to. You don't have to type every word out, just chapter and verse heading. I here people make reference to this but I do not see any significance to it. Are you willing to help?

Gee C.C, this is just something I've always known, that during the middle of Trib., antichrist will sit in the temple and here is the abomination of desolation. But I found "some" scripture:

Dan. 9:27
II Thess. 2:1-4
Matt: 24:15 and rest of chapter
Rev. 11:1,2

Alot of info on this subject on You tube ofcourse...

It makes perfect sense to me that the man of peace will bring the necessary peace between the Jews & Muslims so this 3rd Temple can be rebuilt...which both sides are wanting desperately, and the Jews I know have it well in mind! And it's supposed to happen Mid Trib...at the point where people are told to flee to the mountains!

Many consider this one of the main signs of Christ's return, and if so...there is definely big talk among the Jews about this Big Goal!

[NotFinishedYet]

Originally Posted by Josif59

Rev. makes mention of the false prophet sacrificing a goat on the altar and sitting in the throne of a temple in Jerusalem.

Since a part of God dwells within us than one could call our bodies a temple.

As for the one Jesus builds. That is associated with the 'new Jerusalem' that descends from heaven and is to be a part of the 'new earth'. Speaking of the new earth. I remember reading years back where someone mentioned that the new earth would no longer rotate. The sun would light one side of the planet. The light emanating from the 'new Jerusalem would light the other side of the planet, so that the world would never know physical darkness again. I thought it was an interesting concept and left it at that.

Temple sacrifice... that's one of the things I don't get and need more info on. I've heard also the antichrist sacrifice idea (not sure if it's scriptural as I really haven't looked at this at all) but I've also heard some stuff about sacrifices being reinstituted in the millenium reign or New Jerusalem. What's that about? I had heard the idea that the light eminating from New Jerusalem would light 1/2 the world, but not the world not rotating. Any one have scriptures on these things?

John: I'm leaning more toward your views as to the perfecting of the Body of Christ and the Bride of Christ with the temple and New Jerusalem being shadow symbols of our unity with God. I like the comparison of God's order to Zion. This makes more sense to me than earthly temples and sacrifices in a redemption kingdom.

James: I also agree with you as to predictions and interpretations of the symbolic scriptures. That's why I'm lacking in this topic. I guess I also see the interpretations of the temple events as earthly matters as binding us to worldly things rather than spiritual. If we're busy building up again a literal temple in Jerusalem, aren't we gonna lose some time polishing our stones to be fitted into God's temple?

Thanks, Kim, for the scripture references - I'll check them out. Any thing else you can add for the temple events and sacrifices, etc?

Since you mentioned it, I just got done reading about the reinstituted temple sacrifices.

Check out this page for some info....and verses..



The Third Temple
When will it be built?
by Dr. David R. Reagan


The Bible clearly teaches that a new temple — which will be called The Third Temple — will be built in the future. The First Temple was the one that Solomon built and which was destroyed in 586 BC. The Second Temple (516 BC to 70 AD) was built after the Jews returned from Babylonian captivity. The platform on which it sat was greatly expanded and beautified by King Herod, as was the temple itself, but since the sacrifices were never stopped during this renovation and expansion, the new temple was still considered to be The Second Temple.

The Third Temple will exist during the Great Tribulation. Daniel refers to this temple when he says that "the prince who is to come" (the Antichrist) will enter it and stop the sacrifices in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). The Apostle Paul mentions it when he declares that the "man of lawlessness" will profane the temple by entering it and declaring himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). The Third Temple is also mentioned in the book of Revelation when John is told to measure it — a symbolic way of telling him to assess its spiritual condition (Revelation 11:1-2).

This raises the question as to precisely when the temple will be rebuilt. The Bible does not reveal the answer to this question. All it says for certain is that the temple will be in existence when the Antichrist reveals himself (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), and that will be in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). Since this will be only three and a half years into the Tribulation, many have concluded that the temple will likely be rebuilt before the Tribulation begins, because how could such a magnificent building be constructed in such a short period of time?

But this conclusion overlooks the fact that the temple can be literally resurrected overnight! That's because the Jews plan to erect a tent temple like the Tabernacle of Moses, and they are ready to do so at any moment. Everything has been prepared. Once this temporary temple is put up, they will resume the sacrifices and then start building a more permanent structure around and above the temporary one.

Currently there are two major obstacles to the reconstruction of The Third Temple. One pertains to its location. The next temple can only be built where the two previous temples stood because the Holy of Holies must be on the exact same spot. But no one knows for sure where the previous temples were located on the Temple Mount. Most scholars believe that they stood where the Dome of the Rock currently stands. That conclusion may be wrong, but there is no way to prove the exact location without conducting archeological excavations on the Temple Mount, something which is currently prohibited by the Muslims. If The Third Temple is to be built where the Dome of the Rock now stands, then that Muslim structure must first of all be removed either by Man or God. It could, of course be burned to the ground by a saboteur, or it could be destroyed by an earthquake.

The second obstacle is the attitude of the Jewish people and their leaders. Currently, there is no desire among them to build a third temple. The average Israeli is very secular. He knows that any attempt to build a third temple would result in immediate war with the Muslims. Only a handful of ultra-Orthodox Jews have a passion for The Third Temple. They are the ones who have made all the preparations. But they have no popular support. Something will have to happen to create a surge of nationalistic pride that will demand a new temple. This catalytic event could be the discovery of the Ark of the Covenant.

There is a distinct possibility that the ancient temples were not located where the Dome of the Rock currently sits. There is strong evidence that their location was to the north of the Dome and that the sacrificial altar inside the Dome was the one that Solomon built in "the middle of the court" to handle the thousands of special sacrifices which he offered to the Lord on the day The First Temple was dedicated (2 Chronicles 7:7). If that is so, then The Third Temple could be built north of the Dome of the Rock, putting the Dome in the Court of the Gentiles. This may well be the solution the Antichrist will come up with when he negotiates a peace between the Jews and the Arabs (Daniel 9:27).

To summarize, there is definitely going to be a third temple. It will most likely be erected at the beginning of the Tribulation in the form of a tent temple, like the Tabernacle of Moses. A more permanent structure will then be built around and above it. The Antichrist will desecrate this temple in the middle of the Tribulation.

The Third Temple will be destroyed at the Second Coming of Jesus. The great earthquake at that time will radically change the topography of Jerusalem and all the earth (Revelation 6:12-17). In Jerusalem it will result in the provision of a very large level area where the Millennial Temple will be constructed. This is the temple from which Jesus will reign over all the earth. It is described in detail in Ezekiel 40-46.