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Old 12-12-2018, 07:47 AM
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I am curious to hear what everyone's understanding is of the tree of knowledge in Gen 3.
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:53 AM
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Its not the tree of knowledge, its the tree of knowledge OF Good and evil. It showed humans how some things are bad, some good and being able to discern the two. But most people dont really use it, that discernment, they would rather let others tell them what is right and wrong. It also makes us feel (and be) guilty of wrongdoing when we do wrong.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:41 PM
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The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was placed there to remind man that although he was created in God’s image and likeness, he is not God. Man is not God, but a creation of God. And only God can define what is good and evil. Man cannot define for himself what is good and evil. As soon as he did that, he decided on his own to legalized abortion, same-sex marriage, Euthanasia, etc.

Man is supposed to trust in God and form a relationship with Him. Man is supposed to look to God for revelation and not obtain knowledge outside of his relationship with God. God told man that if he eats from that tree, he will die. But Satan persuaded Adam and Eve that eating the forbidden fruit will make them like God, knowing good and evil. “Like God” because only God can define what is good and evil. Man, being a creature of God, is supposed to form a relationship with God. Through his relationship with God, man will know good and evil. The sins of Adam and Eve are disobedience and pride.

Because man had tasted the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, he then becomes like God deciding for himself without any relationship with God what is good and what is evil. As a result, we see a lot of moral decay in our society because man determined that such things as abortion, transgender, and homosexuality are good. Man has decided that displaying the nativity scene during Christmas on government property is bad. In fact, some have even decided that the word “Christmas” should be banned, and people should simply say, “Happy Holidays.”

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Old 12-12-2018, 05:24 PM
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The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was placed there to remind man that although he was created in God’s image and likeness, he is not God. Man is not God, but a creation of God. And only God can define what is good and evil. Man cannot define for himself what is good and evil. As soon as he did that, he decided on his own to legalized abortion, same-sex marriage, Euthanasia, etc.

Man is supposed to trust in God and form a relationship with Him. Man is supposed to look to God for revelation and not obtain knowledge outside of his relationship with God. God told man that if he eats from that tree, he will die. But Satan persuaded Adam and Eve that eating the forbidden fruit will make them like God, knowing good and evil. “Like God” because only God can define what is good and evil. Man, being a creature of God, is supposed to form a relationship with God. Through his relationship with God, man will know good and evil. The sins of Adam and Eve are disobedience and pride.

Because man had tasted the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, he then becomes like God deciding for himself without any relationship with God what is good and what is evil. As a result, we see a lot of moral decay in our society because man determined that such things as abortion, transgender, and homosexuality are good. Man has decided that displaying the nativity scene during Christmas on government property is bad. In fact, some have even decided that the word “Christmas” should be banned, and people should simply say, “Happy Holidays.”
Very good.
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Old 01-05-2019, 05:48 AM
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GEN.3 [22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Yes we have taken of the tree good and evil. The important thing written here is that we take of the tree of life and live forever

PROVERBS 13 [12] Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the desire cometh, it is A TREE OF LIFE.[13]Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but HE THAT FEARETH THE COMMANDMENT SHALL BE REWARDED.[14] The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

In the middle of the book scripture speaks of the tree of life and is reserved for those who keep the commandments and the law.

REVELATION 22 [13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.[14] BLESSED ARE THEY THAT DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, THAT THEY MAY HAVE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE, AND MAY ENTER IN THROUGH THE GATES INTO THE CITY.[15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.[16] I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

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JER.10 [3] For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.[4] They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.[5] They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:00 AM
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This is from the Catechism:

**396 God created man in his image and established him in his friendship. A spiritual creature, man can live this friendship only in free submission to God. The prohibition against eating “of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil” spells this out: "for in the day that you eat of it, you shall die."276 The "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"277 symbolically evokes the insurmountable limits that man, being a creature, must freely recognize and respect with trust. Man is dependent on his Creator, and subject to the laws of creation and to the moral norms that govern the use of freedom. **
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:51 PM
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And because man has eaten the forbidden fruit, he decided on his own without God what is good and evil. Man legalized abortion, same sex marriage, and euthanasia because he determined those things good for society. He has approved of homosexuality and transgender as good and normal, without realizing its consequences. The US is even requiring that a transgender bathroom be installed in the schools, universities, and other facilities.
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Its not the tree of knowledge, its the tree of knowledge OF Good and evil. It showed humans how some things are bad, some good and being able to discern the two. But most people dont really use it, that discernment, they would rather let others tell them what is right and wrong. It also makes us feel (and be) guilty of wrongdoing when we do wrong.
It sounds like you're saying the knowledge of good and evil is something to be desired, and it surely is. But I don't understand why you would be saying that they should have gotten that knowledge from the tree. Can you elaborate on that?
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Old 03-02-2019, 03:42 AM
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The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was placed there to remind man that although he was created in God’s image and likeness, he is not God. Man is not God, but a creation of God. And only God can define what is good and evil. Man cannot define for himself what is good and evil. As soon as he did that, he decided on his own to legalized abortion, same-sex marriage, Euthanasia, etc.

Man is supposed to trust in God and form a relationship with Him. Man is supposed to look to God for revelation and not obtain knowledge outside of his relationship with God. God told man that if he eats from that tree, he will die. But Satan persuaded Adam and Eve that eating the forbidden fruit will make them like God, knowing good and evil. “Like God” because only God can define what is good and evil. Man, being a creature of God, is supposed to form a relationship with God. Through his relationship with God, man will know good and evil. The sins of Adam and Eve are disobedience and pride.

Because man had tasted the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, he then becomes like God deciding for himself without any relationship with God what is good and what is evil. As a result, we see a lot of moral decay in our society because man determined that such things as abortion, transgender, and homosexuality are good. Man has decided that displaying the nativity scene during Christmas on government property is bad. In fact, some have even decided that the word “Christmas” should be banned, and people should simply say, “Happy Holidays.”
Hello Selene. Can I please ask for your thoughts on the tree? If Adam and Eve did not have the knowledge of good and evil before they ate from the tree, they had no concept of right and wrong. How could they be blamed for a choice they didn't understand?
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The early Church fathers wrote that the fruit of Tree of Life conferred bodily immortality, incorruption, and integrity (i.e. perfect health) on our first parents.

With their Fall and then their restoration to grace, if Adam and Eve been allowed to remain in paradise, that Tree would have continued to give them and their children immortality. But this could not be allowed because they had been warned by God of death for the sin of disobedience and that sentence was delivered by God as punishment for their sin, for themselves, and for all their descendants, even though Adam and Eve did repent. The guilt was forgiven, sanctifying grace was restored, but the punishment for the crime was removal from paradise.
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