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BCsenior 09-23-2017 03:12 PM

Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
Please tell me why NT passages such as these do NOT apply to you?

“… wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to (eternal)
destruction … narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which
leads to (eternal) life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14)
The truth of the narrow way has not at all been taught in its full reality.
There are many NT verses which prove how narrow the way really is!

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’, shall enter the kingdom
of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven …
I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you (approved of you); depart
from Me, you who practice lawlessness (sin)!’ ” (Matthew 7:21-23)
There’s much more to doing God’s will than merely believing in Jesus!
Yes, sin keeps you out of the kingdom … see the NT “sin lists”
(1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3-6).

“You will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures
to the end (until his death) will be saved (eternally).” (Matthew 10:22)
There are about 15 NT verses which teach us … the believer must
endure in the faith until death to receive eternal life (and some are below).

“But if you want to enter into (eternal) life, keep the commandments.”
(Matthew 19:17)
“He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me.”
(John 14:21, also John 14:23 & John 15:14)
Does anyone get into heaven who does NOT love Jesus and obey Him?

“If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter
into life maimed rather than having two hands and go to hell” (Mark 9:43)
Jesus is displaying the utter seriousness of sin!

“For whoever desires to save his (worldly) life will lose it (eternal life)
but whoever loses his (worldly) life for My sake will save it (eternal life).
For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and is
himself destroyed or lost (eternal death)?” (Luke 9:24-25 and John 12:25)

“And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh” (Galatians 5:24)
“For if you live according to the flesh you will die (eternally)” (Romans 8:13)
“Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows,
that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh
reap corruption (eternal death)” (Galatians 6:7-8)

“… the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received
... by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which
I preached to you – unless you believed in vain.” (1 Corinthians 15:1-2)

“Then when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin;
and sin, when it is full grown, brings forth (eternal) death.
Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.” (James 1:15-16)

“But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare,
and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in
destruction and perdition (eternal death) … Command those who
are rich … that they may lay hold on to eternal life.” (1 Timothy 6:9-19)

“ ‘My righteous ones will live by faith. But I will take no pleasure
in anyone who turns away.’ But we are not like those who turn
away from God to their own destruction (eternal death). We are
the faithful ones, whose souls will be saved.” (Hebrews 10:38-39)

Paul says some believers turn back to their destruction, but in fact,
he has NO idea who will remain faithful to the end, or who will turn away!

“In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest:
whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God” (1 John 3:10)
“He who practices righteousness is righteous” (1 John 3:7)

“He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God
and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable,
murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars
shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone,
which is the second death (eternal death).” (Revelation 21:7-8)
The “cowardly” include believers who fall from the faith when persecuted
for their Christian faith, or later submit to taking the mark of the beast.

“But there shall by no means enter it (the New Jerusalem) anything
that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those
who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.” (Revelation 21:27)

“He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and
I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life” (Revelation 3:5)

Jesus gives His definition of who the victorious “overcomer” is …
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne,
as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.” (Revelation 3:21)

Just what did Jesus overcome? Primarily: the world, sin, and the devil.
We today are the deceived church of Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22).

“If you refuse to forgive others, your Father won’t forgive your sins.” (Matthew 6:15)
Unforgiveness blocks you from heaven, and it also blocks you from being healed!

“Fear the Lord and keep His commandments … so that you may be saved.
… So have faith in Him and fear Him and by that fear exercise self-control.
Keep these commandments. If you do, you will put on the strength of
righteousness, and cast all wickedness from you, and live to God.”
(“The Shepherd of Hermas” -- most popular Christian “book” during 100-400 a.d.
Quoted as Scripture by such as: Irenaeas, Clement, Origen, Codex Sinaiticus.
The Shepherd (an angel?) calls himself: “the Shepherd and messenger of repentance”.)

“Fear God, who has the power … to throw you into hell” (Luke 12:5)
“… unless you repent you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:3 and 13:5)

“… beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh
and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God … your sorrow
(over my first letter to you) led to repentance … For godly sorrow
produces repentance leading to salvation.” (2 Corinthians 7:1-10)
Yes, our current sins will be forgiven through deep and sincere repentance!
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)
“When the Lord saw that their repentance was good and pure, and that they
were able to remain in it, He ordered their former sins to be blotted out.”
(“The Shepherd of Hermas” – he’s not nearly as tactful as the earlier Epistles)

Has Satan deceived you? … Has he deceived your church?

Satan hates God, and he hates you! … He and his demons work
tirelessly to succeed in having you spend eternity in hell with them.
“the god of this world” (2 Corinthians 4:4)
“the ruler of this world” (John 12:31, 14:30, 16:11)
“the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world” (Revelation 12:9)
“he is a liar and the father of it (lies)” (John 8:44)
“evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world” (Ephesians 6:12)

Have you been deceived into believing in “once saved, always saved”,
and that your sins (past, present, and future) have all been forgiven?
(Also, have you been deceived into believing in a pre-tribulation rapture?)
Heads-up! The dozens of warnings in the NT are there for a purpose!
For example: “… you are that one’s slaves whom you obey,
whether (slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, OR
(slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness … now present
your bodies as slaves of righteousness for holiness.” (Romans 6:16,19)

Born-agains have been given a new nature and the indwelling Holy Spirit
to free them from their bondage to Satan – and from their slavery to sin!

CinderAsh 09-23-2017 04:35 PM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.


Whether anybody, you or I or someone else has been deceived by Satan, ultimately we all belong to the Lord because he is the Lord of both the dead and the living. But I see you realise this when you say:

Quote:

Just what did Jesus overcome? Primarily: the world, sin, and the devil.
We today are the deceived church of Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22).
We includes you, a confession?

pryz 09-23-2017 08:04 PM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CinderAsh (Post 206845)
7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. 11 It is written:

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.


Whether anybody, you or I or someone else has been deceived by Satan, ultimately we all belong to the Lord because he is the Lord of both the dead and the living. But I see you realise this when you say:

We includes you, a confession?

Nice post.

pryz 09-23-2017 08:13 PM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
Don’t worry, it’s all there in the record books whether it be leaked or not,
"For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light.”
(Luke 8:17)
Has Satan deceived? The word of truth says it is possible that we come to the place when we are no longer ignorant of his devices. Goodness knows mankind has been quite the accommodator – very bad,
"For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything."
1 John 3:20
How much condemnation does it mean God is willing to help us through?
"For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
(Romans 8:39)
Are you prepared to contend with God on what that does not include? I wouldn't have thought so, but the urgency of your post is rattling an idle accusation very much, but thanks for the reminders!
“, , and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.”
(1 John 5:4)
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BCsenior 09-25-2017 02:38 PM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
I am simply warning professed believers
who are involved in habitual unrepentant sin!

Unless they sincerely repent of their sins,
they will not be welcomed into heaven.
Death-bed repentance will probably work for some.

BTW, evangelists, pastors, and teachers
who are actually called by the Lord to be such
will naturally warn against such a life-style.

Trumpeter 09-25-2017 03:47 PM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BCsenior (Post 206859)
I am simply warning professed believers
who are involved in habitual unrepentant sin!

Unless they sincerely repent of their sins,
they will not be welcomed into heaven.
Death-bed repentance will probably work for some.

BTW, evangelists, pastors, and teachers
who are actually called by the Lord to be such
will naturally warn against such a life-style.

..........TU:

twinc 11-27-2017 12:19 PM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumpeter (Post 206860)
..........TU:


guess what habitual/unaccepted/ unrepented sin is especially by misguided and misled and misleading pastors and teachers - it is the unforgiveable sin unlikely of repentance viz claiming individual inspiration and guidance via the Holy Spirit imho - twinc

vodswordistrue 03-25-2018 05:07 AM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
we r saved thru gods inputed justice luke 18 9thru 11 romans 7.24thru 25

vodswordistrue 03-25-2018 05:12 AM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
all church has fallen acts 17.23thru 25 compare with john 4.24

CatholicCrusader 03-25-2018 07:17 AM

Re: Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vodswordistrue (Post 208610)
all church has fallen acts 17.23thru 25 compare with john 4.24

Quote:

Originally Posted by vodswordistrue (Post 208609)
we r saved thru gods inputed justice luke 18 9thru 11 romans 7.24thru 25


What does your name mean: vodswordistrue

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCsenior (Post 206844)
Have you been deceived by Satan through your church?

No.


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