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Old 12-22-2016, 09:20 AM
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I have read many times that the Rosary is unscriptural, or words to that effect. Very sad, and wrong. Aside from the Apostles Creed, the three main prayers of the Rosary are the Lord's Prayer, the Glory Be, and the Hail Mary. The only prayer I can think of that non-Catholics would have an issue with would be the Hail Mary, so this thread is a simple thread to point out how the Hail Mary is a totally Bible-based prayer. It goes:

Hail Mary, Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death.
Amen.



So let us break it down into four parts:

1) Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: This is a direct quote from scripture: Luke 1:28. (Although some translations render it differently, such as "hail favored one", or similar translations, "full of grace" come from the Latin "gratia plena", from the original Latin Vulgate, and faithfully represents the original Greek.)

2) Blessed are thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus: Another direct quote from scripture: Luke 1:42

3) Holy Mary, mother of God: Christ is God incarnate, and since Mary bore Jesus - who is God - in her womb, she is rightly called the Mother of God: "Theotokos", or "God-bearer". Remember what Elizabeth said: "And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?" Luke 1:43

4) pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen: Revelation 5:8 shows that the saints in heaven do actively intercede for us, and in 1 Timothy 2:1-4, Paul strongly encouraged Christians to intercede for each other since such prayers are "pleasing to God". Since Paul says that death does not separate us from God, it is good to ask our departed brothers and sisters to pray for us the same way we would ask those on earth to pray for us. After all, "the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much" James 5:16 (KJV). So, the culmination of this prayer is a simple request, which is to ask a fellow Christian to pray for us. Very Biblical.

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Old 12-22-2016, 09:21 AM
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Thanks for that, CC.

There is a book out that also looks interesting, The New Rosary in Scripture: Biblical Insights for Praying the 20 Mysteries, by Edward Sri.

I have also heard the objection that God does not like repetitive prayer.

Edward Sri makes a great suggestion to prevent rote, meaningless repetition of the Hail Mary's, by urging that we pause at each mention of Jesus to truly reflect on and envision some aspect of the mystery we are on.

Kindle has a really neat app that teaches how to pray the Rosary.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...uwDG64vPhcgwJQ

(The link may only work if you are on a Kindle, I'm not sure . . .)

Also, I sometimes only pray one decade at a time, but work my way through the entire set of prayers by day's end. It is quite an undertaking to pray all the way through in one sitting. Takes much dedication.
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Mary was not he mother of God, she was the mother of Jesus, in his human form. Jesus was 100% God and 100% man, Mary bore the man. She could not be the mother of God because God is spirit and existed before Mary.
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Mary was not he mother of God, she was the mother of Jesus, in his human form. Jesus was 100% God and 100% man, Mary bore the man. She could not be the mother of God because God is spirit and existed before Mary.
But you just said, and I quote: Jesus was 100% God. Either He was 100% God or not in and out of the womb of His mother, Mary.

Was He not 100% God in the womb of His mother?
Was Jesus only 100% man in the womb of His mother?
Without Jesus not coming out of the womb, there would be no Jesus that you tell us is 100% God.
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Jesus was 100% God, even in Mary's womb, when he was born He was also 100% man. Mary had to be a virgin, otherwise the sin of Adam would have been inherited by Jesus, therefore He could not have done His work of Salvation, He would not have been qualified. Sin is transferred through the father, His father had to be the Spirit of God, but He had to have a human mother for His humanity.
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Jesus was 100% God, even in Mary's womb, when he was born He was also 100% man. Mary had to be a virgin, otherwise the sin of Adam would have been inherited by Jesus, therefore He could not have done His work of Salvation, He would not have been qualified. Sin is transferred through the father, His father had to be the Spirit of God, but He had to have a human mother for His humanity.
Where does scripture teach us that sin is transferred through the father?

Also what sin is transferred through the father?

If sin is transferred through the father why then did Mary have to be a virgin?
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Further if the sin was passed down by the father than Mary was stained so how does one get past that?
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Old 12-09-2017, 09:58 AM
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Only Almighty God is the “Hearer of Prayer.”-Psalms 55:1; 65:2 (not inclusive).
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Sin is not passed through Father or Mother, but from Human to Human through the process of Procreation.

It says sin passed on to all men, it does not give any other information on the subject.


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