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Old 01-30-2009, 06:39 AM
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I really want to deal with the first one in particular...discernment of spirits. I have an idea or a thought on what it is or isn't, but can someone specifically elementarize (is that a word?) it for me? Like, break it down all the way to the ground.

The other gift I'm wondering about is prophecy. What's the difference between prophecy and being psychic? Again, I believe I have an idea, but someone told me that I didn't know the difference, so I'm asking. They decided that I didn't know the difference because I told them that I knew stuff about people before it happened for them as well as things concerning myself. I dream a lot. Some things that I've dreamed or just knew concerning myself had nothing to do with my spirituality or God, but not very many things. I've known more dealing with the spiritual than I did with the natural. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:51 AM
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Good topic! WE all need to pray for discernment, for ourselves and those generations to follow after us, the Lord got me to do that!

I will wait for Beauty to comment, and give us the "ground" to prepare the conversation, and I will be here in the back ground, telling you how to pray about it, for what the Lord has shown me, woohooo ,amen!

God is going to be setting the captives free!!! I am soooo excited!

Are you christian? I think we need to know a few basics about you, that would set a firm ground, God bless!
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Old 01-30-2009, 07:53 AM
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Good topic! WE all need to pray for discernment, for ourselves and those generations to follow after us, the Lord got me to do that!

I will wait for Beauty to comment, and give us the "ground" to prepare the conversation, and I will be here in the back ground, telling you how to pray about it, for what the Lord has shown me, woohooo ,amen!

God is going to be setting the captives free!!! I am soooo excited!

Are you christian? I think we need to know a few basics about you, that would set a firm ground, God bless!

Yes, I am a Christian.
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:06 AM
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I really want to deal with the first one in particular...discernment of spirits. I have an idea or a thought on what it is or isn't, but can someone specifically elementarize (is that a word?) it for me? Like, break it down all the way to the ground.

The other gift I'm wondering about is prophecy. What's the difference between prophecy and being psychic? Again, I believe I have an idea, but someone told me that I didn't know the difference, so I'm asking. They decided that I didn't know the difference because I told them that I knew stuff about people before it happened for them as well as things concerning myself. I dream a lot. Some things that I've dreamed or just knew concerning myself had nothing to do with my spirituality or God, but not very many things. I've known more dealing with the spiritual than I did with the natural. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks
I too have experience seeing things before they happen. In visions while I am praying. When I see these..then I pray for them to come to pass. This is all new to me. Looking forward to someone explaining more!
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:31 AM
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I really want to deal with the first one in particular...discernment of spirits. I have an idea or a thought on what it is or isn't, but can someone specifically elementarize (is that a word?) it for me? Like, break it down all the way to the ground.

The other gift I'm wondering about is prophecy. What's the difference between prophecy and being psychic? Again, I believe I have an idea, but someone told me that I didn't know the difference, so I'm asking. They decided that I didn't know the difference because I told them that I knew stuff about people before it happened for them as well as things concerning myself. I dream a lot. Some things that I've dreamed or just knew concerning myself had nothing to do with my spirituality or God, but not very many things. I've known more dealing with the spiritual than I did with the natural. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks
I have both of those gifts.

Let me explain: Decernment of spirits has to do with being able to decern what is in the spirit of a person. Weather be a demon, an emotion, a fealing, and other things about a persons personality and charicter. It is a reading of ones inner spirit, not the thoughts of the mind.

Prophecy is a gift that involves speaking Gods words. Sometimes a prophet has a specal message, oftin times they just have the words of God. The difference between a prophets teachings and a teachers teaching is that the prophet can explain what it means in its proper context. He understands and knows what God has said instead of just memorizing it. He does not preach, nor does he teach, he speaks of what Jesus Christ has done, who he is, and what he has spoken.
There is also the future visions too. Though it is not always the case with prophets.

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Old 01-31-2009, 12:43 PM
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I really want to deal with the first one in particular...discernment of spirits. I have an idea or a thought on what it is or isn't, but can someone specifically elementarize (is that a word?) it for me? Like, break it down all the way to the ground.

The other gift I'm wondering about is prophecy. What's the difference between prophecy and being psychic? Again, I believe I have an idea, but someone told me that I didn't know the difference, so I'm asking. They decided that I didn't know the difference because I told them that I knew stuff about people before it happened for them as well as things concerning myself. I dream a lot. Some things that I've dreamed or just knew concerning myself had nothing to do with my spirituality or God, but not very many things. I've known more dealing with the spiritual than I did with the natural. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks

I think I may be able to help.;.
Please keep in mind that what I will tell you is from my own studies and the knowledge I sought out from what I consider credible teachers of this doctrine.

I hope this doesent turn into a long post... LOL

You are seeking knowledge concerning two different gifts of the spirit that are from two seperate catagories. I will try to elementarize it. (I think that may be a word) haha

Discerning of spirits. This is a Revelation Gift.
Other Revelation gifts include Word of Wisdom and Word of knowledge. Notice that it is only a word of ** Its not the wole story.
Revelation means "to be revealed"
Discerning means "recognize"

Discerning of Spirits - Supernatural insight by the Spirit of God into the spirit world. (The supernatural ability to see or discern the presence or activity of a spirit whether good or bad).

Whether good or bad means not just descerning devils but also discerning the spirit of God in people. (1 John 4:6)

Supernatural -- Dosen't grow but drops (Heb 5:12-14; Matt 7:15-20)

Not the gift of discernment of suspicion , criticism, or fault-finding; we have to remember that God is intrested in growth and not tearing down His people.

Scriptual examples -- Isaiah 6:1 ; Ex 33:16-23; Rev 1:3; Dan 10:7 ; II Kings 6:8-17; Acts 8:9-24 ; Matt 16:13-23; Acts 13: 6-12; John 1:43-47

Has a definite relation to ministry of healing and casting out devils
Acts 16:16-18; Luke 13:10-17; Matt 9:32-34; 12:22,23 ; Mark 9:14-29

I ran out of time I will come back and work on Prophecy for you.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:53 PM
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Yes, decernment does include the ability to decern the presense of demons in people. But it is also the ability to decern the things in a persons personal spirit.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:23 PM
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Prophecy is a Vocal (Inspiration) gift.

Prophecy is an inspired communication from God. It is a Supernatural utterance in a KNOWN tounge. (divinely inspired and anointed utterance.)

Prophecy is God's supernatural communications media. What makes it propjecy is that God speaks through His people before the earthly events in question occur.

Predictive revelation that God, who is eternal, speaks from outside tie to His creation and family in time. Once a word from the Lord leaves eternity and makes its way in the earth, usually through a human vessel, it precedes the events that occasioned it. That is what makes prophecy what it is.

Psychics are different. What they speak has already made its way from the Spirit and secret treasuries of Creator God and have been in the planet floating as temptations waiting to ensnare the souls of humanity. Other than this, what they speak is received from seducing spirits as slander, gossip, and talebearing. This is why the Lord says they are the product of familiar spirits.
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Old 01-31-2009, 05:40 PM
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Dreams when prophetically spurred, send messages and information conveyed by the Lord, or His spiritual agencies, sucha s the prophetic's dream angel. These take the form of propjetic dreams where the dreamer os told or shown something while asleep that pertains to or affects his or her waking sphere of life. The prophetic dream distinguishes itself because it uses language and symbolism unique to the dreamer relevant to their waking life or everyday existence. Often these dreams, while they may be sentimentally triggered, have no emotional tie to the dreamer. This is because they are to transmit inforamtion to the dreamer not ordinarily or easily received while awake.
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Prophecy is a gift that involves speaking Gods words. Sometimes a prophet has a specal message, oftin times they just have the words of God. The difference between a prophets teachings and a teachers teaching is that the prophet can explain what it means in its proper context. He understands and knows what God has said instead of just memorizing it. He does not preach, nor does he teach, he speaks of what Jesus Christ has done, who he is, and what he has spoken.
There is also the future visions too. Though it is not always the case with prophets.

I disagree with you.. One who is a Teacher is able to teach God's word in its proper context. (They are anointed to do so) A teacher is part of the five fold ministry as well as the prophet. A prophet is indeed able to preach and teach as well. All can prophesy but that does not make everybody a prophet.

I encourage you to do a study on the Functions of the Prophets Mantle.
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