As member Robert has a way of reporting, “, , ,Things You Won’t Find in the Bible, , ,” I find a worthwhile entry. As older members of our culture remembers one of these being said to those who back then actually had enough respect for other peoples observations would hear “Try a little kindness, it goes a long-long way.” I might be tempted to think of this as the closest to scripture you’ll ever find.
Every now and then in our experience where Christian thought and comment is used comes barreling through is the immense danger of the unpardonable “sin”. Otherwise known as “Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 12:31).
It is the one of the most curious instances of counsel by not only the gravity of the statement, but the handling of it by others we run into. I mean, if so grave, why aren’t we more respondent to implications of it when someone we run into enters such rash statements lead the hearer into danger; “Should I try something that for all practical purposes may be, , demonic?”
It is also something I honestly find people becoming especially dull to by, who knows how many factors. One thing remains, for one to recognize through his own error he has just tipped the scale into that unfortunate act leaving him with no hope. Who knows how many have been cast out to live with this enormous mark of knowledge for the rest of his days. Upon reflection of this, I recently had to administer mercy for just such a one.
I eventually realized for the blogger, this leaves the matter for the fruit of the Spirit to be presented; “kindness” and “gentleness”(Galatians 5:22).
While the Apostle did say:
“There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this.”(1 John 5:16B)
Then where is “kindness” to appear? I believe as if I myself too were caught under the same weight. I would have to head off such described calamity. I would have no other choice but to lay further fully responsible claim for that supposed limelight of spiritual excellence just as though I had the capability of it, just as though I had knowledge of it, just as though God might honor it at some point, and admit this was done by the gift of:
“the word of wisdom through the Spirit, , ,” or,
“the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit, ,” (I Corinthians 12:8)
I believe it is possible for God to honor this without such intercession (for our own conscience), but within the realm of mercy (for theirs). Of course God would do the determining based upon the hostility of intents of the time.
At their present state of despair, they really have nothing to lose, and a possible life in Christ to gain.
If this comes as outside of your allowable parameters of doctrine, I really don’t wish to offend. Just think of all those who lived a very long time with this to ultimately be shown at the judgment seat of Christ.
If otherwise anything remains sound, to God be the glory.
I agree with those who think this is quite uncustomary to our overall Church culture when one party would rather spend time injecting unconfirmed (concerning the other party) reports of revelry and heresy as many have to date. Through the desperate need to dismiss any possibility of these gifts being found today just as God had determined by stereotypical and individual character attacks that many now express from the pulpit that a refined end-time trait known as “faithless[ness]” emerges. For as they know, but will further refuse to admit what that would entail is a most dangerous eventual self-inflicted trap.
After recognizing the possibility, one must stop and realize; Every Christian in his most questioned inner position can still say with the Apostle, “I think I have the Spirit of God”, all the way to the inward confirmation and persuasion of that confidence, “I know in whom I have believed”, remember?
Among both the most misunderstood and maligned gift by God is that of the use of tongues.
As people have shown, this isn’t their area of expertise. They show themselves to be incapable of knowing the two areas to profit from this gift, when it is to be used extensively and when it is to be stopped:
Purpose – Edification (to build up wherever it is used)
1. Universally (To the hearing Church)
2. Singular (Self)
They malign the definition of faith out of their fear of the truth concerning this gift.
“Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” (Hebrews 11:1)
But they would have us believe in an effort to prove all things, which we should (I Thess. 5:21), but if they had their way also means we should perform this in a fashion wherein all biblically unrestricted areas involving faith are to be removed from the possibility of sound consideration. For every time Paul declares “I will” with the gift, they are right there to say ‘I will not’ by their position. So then, it would read from these responses of theirs concerning the use of the gifts:
‘Now faith is the assurance of things discovered, the conviction of things seen.’
How absurd is this opposite? But they will undoubtedly go and disconnect these gifts from faith and thereby deny both. And that is why they can’t find contentment in discussing to agree on these things with those who are stedfast to the full council because not for reason of not proving something, but because of reason of their “evil heart of unbelief”(Hebrews 3:12). For the fruit we know a person by is what that person actually is as our Lord did say, and it is imperative they repent of this without delay, for as you know, without faith, it is “impossible to please God”. For all the other good they possess and exhibit is nullified by this teaching.
What else could be said for someone overcome with hate for someone or something they may not realize actually lives within them; a fear of the truth that these things are so? The rhetoric continues in baseless form against the sound Church recognition of this out of fear for the success of its alignment with the truth which is so.
But they continue to seek only evidence without that faith. Even if it were possible for someone to ascend above the provisions God provides (remember?) and actually prove for them a handful of benefits (which any Christian isn’t capable in ordinary terms of producing), , what would that show of their intent? That they wanted all along to prop-up a cult-head figure to quickly dismiss? Disgusting hatred, yes, and all out of fear of the truth, Repent!
I say this to all who holds what the Bible says about tongues is “demonic”, is demonic in itself. Get it? Have you see this slight-of-hand from them everyone? To prop us up in an area of defense, questioning the motives of our heart when they refuse to stand up to their own position and refute the scriptures? Don’t try and turn that into me being defensive, but a proactive statement to declare what is really going on here, the immense danger of the unpardonable “sin”. What else does one stand to profit to deceptive meanings? Of course, a movement.
And off they go attacking people with an invitation to join their bitterness rather than why the meaning of self-edification isn’t meant for us today. Why? Because that boat don’t float so well though they try as they must. Yes, it is logic tried to an anchor at the bottom of the Dead Sea that proves this unfounded disgust for the gifts. We can see this every day from those close to us who might be willingly go to their death-bed of unrelenting pride unknowingly affirm the absence of providence for themselves than to agree with God, the Apostles, the people of faith that God would grant this same work as seen in the Bible.
Is this possibly the nut of their displeasure with regard to tongues, because their faith can’t quite find the reason to believe that God would actually allow this in the body of Christ? To think we should actually allow this to happen to one of his followers? To think we should allow something so foreign that would rise above our methods and logic? The hard answer given in love brother is we are still unwilling to let that corner of our mind let go of the carnal, but guard it by attacking and run from it by the belittling slight-of-hand comments.
And the question remains, why should they put their reasoning locked away to remain on the bottom of the Dead Sea with them saying, ‘I disagree’ which is under the same rhetorical spirit being perpetrated all the way from Egypt, where our Lord was crucified? They then would call me rhetorical. but why not, God also established the spiritual lingo, not me and my rhetoric. (Rev. 11:8)
Their statements are rife with contempt for those who practice this, thereby the gifts themselves. Therefore, they continue to amass a swelling thought of animosity to be for these people as though in error when in reality the root of their concern is to distance themselves from the gifts. This has been the narrative right along, but fear not, God knows your heart and what gifts would suit it.
They are also suspicious? That is one thing to beware of as we should. But after a season of refusing the truth, that suspicion turns into superstition feeding the carnal approach of refusing His truth. But the redundancies here exhaust life from the subject itself.
People who need an extra-Biblical explanation to frame their independent goals are held responsible for the response to repent. As well as recognize the truth as it has been written for all since the beginning of the Church. The truth stands easily, clearly self confirming lest you haven't done the necessary study. You can always change though you know. It’s always available for those who are “afar off” (Acts 2:39), meaning throughout time. The attempt by them here is to distort that truth which tells everyone of Christ’s knowledge what this charade is all about – suppression of the Spirit’s work.
Translated, disobedience on display by forbidding to speak with tongues (1 Corinthians 14:39)!
Take their attempt to steer away from the simplicity of the statement of one’s own self-edification (I Cor 14:4):
“One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church.”
Again, why does their pride prevent them from accepting the scripture on this? Is it because it is shroud in their continual inward exchanges of wanting “evidence”?
Paul saw that very “evidence”, why would we allow our pride take control to conflict with God’s word? But first, surely, you have heard:
There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. (Ephesians 4:4-6)
Then what do people do with Paul’s apparent dividing of faith and baptism as shown here?:
It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples. He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.” Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying. There were in all about twelve men. (Acts 19:1-7)
Or what would I do if I wanted to insulate myself from that incroaching thought that this is also a part of that same baptism? 'Oh my, it would wreak havoc on our ministry'. I would run back to verses 4-6 and continue on my rebelious quest.
People will complain upon the methods used today to ask for the Spirit. I still prefer Paul’s method as I cited above from God’s truth and that which they refuse. God is able.
They will cite a contrary version to that which is found in I Cor ch 12&14. Or they will disprove of any such involvement of the Spirit’s presence. I disagree with both this and whomever crafted this. Since the Holy Spirit is a living “Comforter”, but won’t, dare I say, can’t intrude on things being done “decently and in order”. His leading, the decency and that order must each have their place as the scriptures declare what it is that should be in place in he Church. God is able to do the rest if only we are willing.
Stay back, back I say to a place well within the box seen here and far away from that quarantined orphan, Unity :)
It is seldom found being promoted when the people have their hands full feeding something else. But when it is, it is strong. How comfortable can people be with the limiting powers contained in many differences? The very proximity of differences themselves are sometimes so close, the effort to state that difference itself could call upon unity to declare heresy.
'What difference is there, really to Christ in some of our strife, does He really care?' That’s what it is, isn’t it, strife within the body of Christ? ‘How happy I am to lay aside these things I just don’t agree with them over’. Now that’s a strange way to put it, but that’s what we would prefer to further say within ourselves isn’t it?
‘But I sure like to make myself heard on these boards, no matter what measure of schisms upon schisms, Church trees upon trees are represented.’ ‘They can take it or leave it, and so can I’. The swept along heresy, the rejected teachings, the quiet ostracizing, anything you can add to the consuming beast known as divided denominations, or even the smaller preferred recognitions. Anything to work against the Apostle’s advise:
“I have no need of you[?]” On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary; and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable, whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.” (1 Corinthians 12:21-25)
Still, within most, they do recognize authority and will grant voice to the head their own final decrees I call Chancellors of the Council of Cancel from the vast land south known as blessings being starved.
I just wonder upon how they might tend to use their dedication in commentary? That is to say, are they usually opposed to even hear comments if they happen to run counter to, or, bring along weight to affirm or not findings within those many Churches of choice?
What would be the likely outcome of their responses; dedication to protect ages-old proclamations mired in respected tradition or ecclesiastical loyalty? Or an honest appraisal for the sake of the inseparable Christian attributes of unity and growth by Christ based solely upon His word yet being generated by His Spirit in us? Have you ever tried this to see bewilderment found in response?
I wonder if they might think it possible for us to put aside and forgive our denominational experience long enough for the sake of that most important decree to collectively consider this faith within?
“bearing with one another, and forgiving each other, whoever has a complaint against anyone; just as the Lord forgave you, so also should you. Beyond all these things put on love, which is the perfect bond of unity.” (Colossians 3:13,14)